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Joel Biske
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I'm another one who is just finding this thread....
It's interesting to me to think about what we would have gained and lost it these plot/ideas had gone more or less as written. With no Days of Future Past AND no JB FF... at least early on...
Where would Marvel be today without these two occurrences?
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John Byrne
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It's interesting to me to think about what we would have gained and lost it
these plot/ideas had gone more or less as written. With no Days of Future
Past AND no JB FF... at least early on...
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Not sure how you loop "Days of Future Past" into this. . . ?
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Joel Biske
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Not sure how you loop "Days of Future Past" into this. . . ?
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The "Days of Future Past" wasn't in that plot list on page one, was it? It's the first time I'd seen the thread.... if that synopsis Cory posted on page one have proven true, you (JB) would have been on the book until at least #150, without having done the DoFP storyline... at least to that point...
or did am I missing something somewhere?
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John Byrne
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"Days of Future Past" was my idea. Chris kept saying he didn't want to do
another Sentinel story, because "Sentinels are lame." I said "No, you just
write them as lame!" And I came up with the DoFP storyline to show
just how kick-ass Sentinels could be.
Unfortunately, Chris' contributions to the story -- Senator Kelly and, yes, yet
another failure for the X-Men -- proved to have a much more lasting impact
than my self-contained story.
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What's wrong with failing superheroes? Don't you understand irony, JB? The concept of the anti-hero? Post-modern comic books? Post-post-modern comics? Po-po-mo-co-bo?
So much of everything at Marvel post-Stan Lee turned into convoluted gibberish.
By vivid contrast, that's why the JB FF was so startling -- oh yeah! THIS is how to do it!
As for the X-Men, post-JB -- no, no, no.
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John Byrne
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What's wrong with failing superheroes?
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Nothing -- unless it's pretty much all they do!
The thing that burned my biscuits about DoFP was that I had come up with a
story that was a clear win for the X-Men. They saved the day, no ifs, ands
or buts --- and Chris, by the inserting of a couple of captions that had
nothing to do with the picture took that away. And, of course, opened
the floodgates for all the crap that was to follow.
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could someone point out the captions so I can cread my
Essentials in the know, please?
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Pascal LISE
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Mr Byrne, do you see any ressemblance between your creative struggles with
Chris Claremont and the Kirby / Lee association ?
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…could someone point out the captions…
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The panel right near the end where Kate "kisses" Kitty.
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Mr Byrne, do you see any ressemblance between your creative struggles with
Chris Claremont and the Kirby / Lee association ?
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Not really. That was a clash of titans. Chris and I were more like gnats
bumping into each other in the dark.
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jeez, thanks, JB!
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Not really. That was a clash of titans. Chris and I were more like gnats
bumping into each other in the dark.
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A bit too modest I would say… because, you gnats, gave us the dengue fever
during your X-Men days !
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