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Landry Walker
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Greg Kirkman: "Congrats, Jason Fulton! Just got a nasty, anti-Byrne e-mail from "you".
Looks like you're an internet celeb, now! Join the club! We'll throw a
party!"
You should post it.
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Greg Kirkman
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Not a chance.
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Andrew W. Farago
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Jonathan Watkins wrote: Wow. Am I ever glad I
was an utterly unplugged midwest teen when AF
number 12 hit the stands! It was a shock, beyond
even the Dark Phoenix ending of Jean dying.
Most of the really shocking/surprising moments I
had as a comic reader came before I had access to
any fan magazines, other fans, the Internet,
Previews, advance mail order catalogs, etc. There
was a lot more of an "anything can happen!" feeling
to the comics when you had no idea what the cover
or contents of a comic were going to be three
months ahead of time.
One example that comes to mind is the "Stark Wars"
storyline in Iron Man in the late 1980s. The
cliffhanger for one issue showed Iron Man's
apparent death at the hands of a supervillain, with
his armor actually getting blown into a million pieces
at the end of the issue. As far as I knew, Tony Stark
was dead, and we'd be seeing a new Iron Man
starting next month (and it was a long 30 days until
that next installment showed up).
I'm still able to be surprised by a comic's outcome (I
probably wouldn't still be reading any of them if that
weren't the case), but it's a lot harder with the
constant coverage and attention paid to every comic
these days. The recent "The Other" storyline in the
Spider-Man comics maimed and killed off
Spider-Man at one point, but solicitations for
upcoming issues were far enough ahead that
anyone who was mildly interested could be
reassured that things would be back to normal the
month after the story wrapped up. Compare that to
the 11-year old me reading "Kraven's Last Hunt"
week-by-week, wondering how Spider-Man's death
was going to affect the three ongoing Spider-Man
comic books after the storyline concluded, and I
know which situation I prefer.
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Jeremy Nichols
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I wonder what the percentage is of comic fans who keep track
of upcoming stuff via Internet, Previews, etc. Could be there's a
majority of people out there who read them as we all used to,
with no knowledge of what's coming up. We only hear our
views about it cause we're online constantly.
(In a similar vein, anyone know how well comics sell outside of
comic shops? Stuff like Looney Tunes and Marvel Adventures
doesn't sell well at all in the LCS, but apparently they sell well
enough elsewhere to justify their continued publication.)
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John Byrne
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All this increasingly (if that's possible!) pointless blathering on what is an undeniable point kept tickling something at the back of my mind, and I just figured out what it is.I'm being taken back to when I sat watching John Dean's testimony in the Watergate hearing. At one point he had described a conversation that took place at a hotel in Washington -- but investigation revealed there was no hotel by that name. Ah ha! Liar! Caught with your pants down! Skulk back to the hole out of which you crawled!! Then it came out that one of the hotels had a restaurant by that name, within its premises. So not a lie after all.
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Landry Walker
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Greg Kirkman:
"Not a chance."
Why not? I figured it would be interesting to see. I don't think anyone
is taking the impostors (on this forum or Peter David's) seriously.
John Byrne: "All this increasingly (if that's possible!) pointless blathering on what is an undeniable point"
Actually, the last several hours has simply been you avoiding answering
an unrelated question. Did the She-Hulk artwork in question ever appear at a
convention or online?
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Greg Kirkman
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Greg Kirkman: "Not a chance."
Why not? I figured it would be interesting to see. I don't think anyone is taking the impostors (on this forum or Peter David's) seriously.
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Do you actually think I'd be open to posting a nasty, badly misspelled e-mail that insults me and the guy in charge of this forum, just for your amusement?
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Jason Fulton
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Eh, I've had fanboys before.
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John Byrne
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Actually, the last several hours has simply been you avoiding answering an unrelated question. Did the She-Hulk artwork in question ever appear at a convention or online? **** "Avoiding"? David has trained you well. When one's argument fails, change the argument. How does one "avoid" an unanswerable question?
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Landry Walker
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Greg Kirkman: "Do you actually think I'd be open to posting a nasty, badly misspelled
e-mail that insults me and the guy in charge of this forum, just for
your amusement?"
How exactly am I supposed to know that the email contains misspellings
and is insulting to you? As for my amusement? No. I think more to expose
the ridiculous levels people will seemingly go to. Would I find in
interesting? Of course? You mentioned the email on the forum, you made
the discussion of it public. You could have just emailed Jason about it
rather than tell him here. I assume your reasoning was to expose the
ridiculous levels people will seemingly go to as well.
And how exactly am I supposed to know what you would or would not be
"open" to? We don't exactly have a long history, you and I. You post
inflammatory statements made on another forum. Why you wouldn't do the
same with a inflammatory statements made via private email is unknown
to me.
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Greg Kirkman
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I just wanted everyone to know that the whole "imitation" garbage is still going on, and it's just as tiring as ever. That's all. Clearly, people are still stooping to ridiculous levels. I'm done stoking the fire.
So, in other words, yes, the Internet has ruined comics.
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Landry Walker
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John Byrne: "How does one "avoid" an unanswerable question?"
How is it unanswerable? Either you know of
it
appearing somewhere (artists discovering stolen artwork in possession
of another party HAS happened, after all) or you don't. The fact that
it might have
appeared without your discovery is implicit in the question, I would
imagine.
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