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Roger A Ott II
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I knew you were going to do that...
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[Chandler Bing] Sprite... through the nose... [/Chandler Bing]
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Iron Jaw.

Original Cover to issue #2:

French cover from the trade:



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Iron Jaw* was one weird comic book.  In the first issue, the hero kidnaps a woman and (pretty clearly) rapes her and then keeps her around for more fun.  Not entirely happy about the situation at first, she adapts, and has a soliloquy about how she didn't ever think she'd like this kind of life, but she's come to appreciate and enjoy it.  Writer Mike Fleisher has a text page at the back of the book about how he's thought long and hard about male/female relationships, and has written Iron Jaw in a way that comports with his beliefs.  I believe that -- though I'm not certain at this point -- later events reveal that the girl may be Iron Jaw's sister.

Anyone who thinks modern comics are depraved needs to take a look at Fleisher's Atlas output.  I liked his DC/Warren horror work pretty well, but when his sensibility started spilling over into to quasi-heroic books, it's pretty shocking.  The Hulk-like Brute kills and eats at least one little kid.  The Tarantula and Morlock 2001 both routinely eat their enemies -- sometimes alive.  Intimations of rape abound.

*Name cribbed from classic GA villain. 

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Stéphane Garrelie
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original Neal Adams art for the cover of Iron Jaw #1:

Bigger scan here: http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=93346& ; ; ;GSub=23493

edited to fix the link.



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Chad Carter
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The title of this thread cracks me up every time I read it.

The Tarantula sounds great.

 

And this would have given me even more nightmares than I had as a kid. Holy crap look at that scary SOB.

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Jason Czeskleba
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 Pierce Askegren wrote:
the Hulk-like Brute kills and eats at least one little kid.


Not that it changes your overall point one bit, but it was Morlock (in his swamp-monster persona) who killed and ate the little blind girl he had rescued earlier (while still in his human persona).  This was in Morlock #2, the epitome of the "so bad it's good" type Atlas comic.  I could be wrong, but I don't recall the Brute killing any children, although he certainly did kill his share of innocent adults.  Fleisher did lean heavily on the anti-hero thing... he was grim-n-gritty before its time.  Prolific too... when Atlas first rolled out he was writing like 6 or so of their books.  I certainly hope Iron Jaw was not representative of Fleisher's actual philosophies on gender roles... he was one of the most openly misogynistic comic characters ever.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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"My hero!"

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Stéphane Garrelie
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lot of original atlas covers art in the gallery of this guy:

www.comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=13486



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Richard Siegel
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Stephane - any more Euro Atlas imagery out there?
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Some other french covers? I don't think so.

LUG had Jean Frisano who was doing original covers for them, and later his son Thomas, but the other editor Aredit/Artima/Sagedition was using the original covers. So the covers to Le Scorpion were probably the american ones.

I didn't found them on www.comicsvf.com  

Maybe L'Echo des Savanes for their Special USA issues asked one of their artist to do a cover including Atlas Characters, but maybe not. I'll have to check for that.

On the cover of Titans #4 we have Doc Savage by Frisano and with issue 5 there weren't Atlas titles anymore in Titans (Lug).

Last minute: I just found the cover of Le Scorpion #2 (Sagedition). It is the american cover of Police Action #2, which was also in the issue.

EDIT: here is the site of the Artist Thomas Frisano were you can find art by himself and by his father Jean (Jean is the french for John). http://perso.orange.fr/thomas.frisano2/index.htm



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A Jeff Rovin Interview:

http://www.twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/16rovin.h tml

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