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Leroy Douresseaux
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No fair, Matt. Not only did you answer the challenge with a good example, you further blew his point by using and Eminem song. (Eminem is white for those of you scoring at home).
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My point is not blown at all. It shows that Matt could make the statement about rap artists and violent content towards women and know what the **** he's talking about.
It's the ones who generalize about rap and don't know shit about rap that I'm talking about. Holla! Now, blow on that!
I'm officially out of control.
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Leroy Douresseaux
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As for Will Smith's having baggage from the beginning, that's probably true. If I remember correctly, he and Jazzy Jeff won the first Grammy given for rap, and I think they were booed when they accepted.
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Jay Matthews
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Leroy wrote:
| My point is not blown at all. It shows that Matt could make the
statement about rap artists and violent content towards women and know
what the **** he's talking about.
It's the ones who generalize about rap and don't know shit about rap that I'm talking about. Holla! Now, blow on that! |
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<<first obeys and blows on it. HONK!>>
So your debate would consist of the members of the human race coming forward, one at time, and identifying a rap song. You then say "I wasn't talking about you. Next!!"
Maybe, just maybe, the people who complain about rap lyrics have heard a lot of disturbing crap.
And what about the Eminem thing? He's the most acclaimed, most popular, and and is as offensive as any of them. Is the coast clear to criticize rap without being considered racist?
(By the way, I like some it, and even some of the roughest stuff has artistic merit)
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Robert Oren
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What exactly is hot dog pie?
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see hot dog pie thread
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Jay Matthews
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Robert Wren wrote:
What exactly is hot dog pie?
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see hot dog pie thread |
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Early nomination for "Most Unhelpful Post."
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Pete York
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Leroy,
I think you worded your challenge the right way to make your point. It would be hard to make the case that a particular artist truly is "encouraging rape". But in modern society all it takes is one person to take it that way and then we got a problem. This one's kind of rough so you know what to do if you want to see it.
MIND OF A LUNATIC by The Geto Boys
Lookin through her window, now my body is warm
She's naked, and I'm a peepin tom
Her body's beautiful, so I'm thinkin rape
Shouldn't have had her curtains open, so that's her fate
Leavin out her house, grabbed the b**** by her mouth
Drug her back in, slammed her down on the couch
Whipped out my knife, said, "If you scream, I'm cuttin"
Opened her legs and commenced the f*****
She begged me not to kill her, I gave her a rose
Then slit her throat, and watched her shake till her eyes closed
Had sex with the corpse before I left her
And drew my name on the wall like helter skelter
Run for shelter never crossed my mind
I had a guage, a grenade, and even a nine
Dial 911 for the b****
But the cops ain't s*** when they're f***** with a lunatic
Well, the song is called MIND OF A LUNATIC. And you don't want the rest of the lyrics. Also, this is not an undergound group, the Geto Boys sold very well in their time.
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Wallace Sellars
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[Will Smith has] had that baggage from the start. I was in college when "Parents Just Don't Understand" came out, and from the get-go people where saying he didn't have genuine street-cred.
I guess it's a question of who's talking the loudest and what voices a person chooses to accept as credible. Smith has always been a valid, respected voice in Hip Hop to those with any sense of its history.
Ah, but Eminem WANTS to be black!
I think I know you meant this in jest, but there are too many people out there who actually believe it to be true.
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Jay Matthews
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Okay, Pete. Leroy wasn't talking about you, either.
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Pete York
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Yeah, sorry. In the time it took to write that post the thread took off and explained itself and I caught it too late.
Edited by Pete York on 05 July 2006 at 7:38pm
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Matt Linton
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Definitely kidding, Wallace. I'm biracial and accused of "acting white" all the time, so that's never something I'd throw at another person. Except Vanilla Ice.
Edited to add:
And Justin Timberlake.
Edited by Matt Linton on 05 July 2006 at 7:40pm
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Jay Matthews
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Don't go all sheepish. I was getting in another dig on Leroy.
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John Mietus
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John Byrne wrote:
slothered
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I know that's a typo, but I really like that word!! |
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Not a typo -- word of my own invention, used as a sound effect of a one-
eyed protoplasmic creature oozing across a floor. I've also used it to
describe an indescribable horror slothering across a floor towards a
hapless protagonist in a Lovecraft parody I wrote.
There are a number of friends of mine who think it's hilarious to walk up
behind someone and grumble, "slother, slother" in their ear. It's a voiced
"th" sound, like in "there" or "feather."
You're more than welcome to use it.
Slother, slother.
Edited by John Mietus on 05 July 2006 at 8:17pm
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