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Bill Collins
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David,as i mentioned in my earlier post,my friend who had no prior knowledge of Moore and with no prompting from me expressed the similar opinion to me,i did meet him in the 80`s just prior to the Watchmen release,he seemed very amiable then.
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Well I'm taking your point but people I know who;ve interviewed him for small press magazines like 'The End is Nigh' felt he was amiable and fun to be around.
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A person can change an awful lot in 20 years I know, but when I met Alan Moore and chatted to him at length in 1986 I found him to be a really nice bloke.
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Perhaps "Mean Moore Stories" should be grouped with the "Bad Byrne Stories"?
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The sort of mood that's evoked can have a lot to do with the questions being asked.  I remember Stan Lee coming across as sad and angry on 60 Minutes because of the questions they choose to ask him.
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The sort of mood that's evoked can have a lot to do with the questions being asked.  I remember Stan Lee coming across as sad and angry on 60 Minutes because of the questions they choose to ask him.

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Not to mention how they might have chosen to edit it!

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Which is a good point. The feature co-incided with the release of V for Vendetta so most of the questions were based around that and the films of From Hell, L.o.E.G., and Hellblazer. It would be dishonest to give bright cheerful answers. Even at his most mordant moments in that interview there was a certain wit in ecidence, just droll and deadpan.
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...sigh...
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(deleted because I shouldn't bait trolls)



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Matt Timson
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I just don't get it. This is the same John Byrne that messed with the Vision's
origin, isn't it? The same John Byrne that removed Superboy from DC
continuity and split Bruce Banner from the Hulk? If memory serves, didn't
the Vision's origin also turn out to be a lie?

Before you go and award me my 'Alan Moore merit badge', it's probably
worth pointing out that I have a complete run of Byrne's Fantastic Four that I
still rate as highly as anything else in my collection- I just don't get his
attitude towards Alan Moore.
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Was the vision still an android when he wasn't the original Human Torch with Wonder Man's personality overlayed onto it? Were all the stories where that origin was mentioned somehow completly overturned and invalidated?

How about X-men Hidden years. Was Orroro knowing about the X-men during her African RAin Goddess years really that out of line with anything? Did it make everything a lie?

Was the House of Thunder ruling a chunk of the Earth with a seemingly incestuous marriage between Mary and Billy to produce an heir more or less of a damaging blow to the characters than changing the vision? Was the eventual revelation that Billy Batson (who couldn't grow up ) was strangled by the Martian Manhunter who he thought was a dominatrix more or less subversive to the history of the character? I mean here we have a dynastic murder in a very seedy situation attributed to a pathetic Mr. Batson.  THAT is pasted over Captain Marvel and you don't find that WORSE by orders of magnitude than merely deciding that a detail of the origin of the Vision(which itself was retconned from him simply having him being made by Ultron) was a misconcpetion that allows the original human torch to come back?

You think that a retelling of Peter's high school years with more modern dressings is as bad?

How about turing Barabra Jordan into a paraplegic for shock? How about turning Len Wein's Frankenstein-esque swamp thing character into one of a whole lineage of plant gods?

Or taking a fun whimsical British Captain Marvel knockoff and turing him into an amoral alien war machine given sentience who decides to kill his host and gets screwed over by an evil govenrment?

Feh.

 

Oh and Fyodor...you're supposed to sign up with your real name and not a favorite author or muppet or whatever.



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Perhaps "Mean Moore Stories" should be grouped with the "Bad Byrne Stories"?
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I don't want to come off as a jerk, but I honestly always felt like there was something in common.  Heck, my fanboyish dream was always to see them work together.

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