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Mike Bunge
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"I don't think that it matters one little bit how many millions of people are familiar with the Dumb Hulk. Why? Because millions of people aren't buying the Hulk, Dumb, Smart, or Mean. Just because probably one out of three people you meet out on the street could tell you "That's the Hulk" if you showed them a picture doesn't mean that they have any interest whatsoever in the charachter, never mind actually reading the comic book."
All I can do is direct you to the reaction to the Hulk movie, where people clearly went in with certain expectations and didn't get them met. People know Dumb Hulk. If they pick up a comic book expecting Dumb Hulk and get Smart Hulk, they're probably not going to like it no matter how well-done the Smart Hulk story is.
Secondly, it seems as though you're defining "potential comic book readers" as people with the same tastes as you. I'm not sure how to argue that.
Mike
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Greg Kirkman
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I think people going into the Hulk movie expected Green Lou Ferrigno and "Don't make me angry...".
Fact of the matter is, any tv/movie adaptation will be the one-stop source of knowledge to the general public for a character.
Look at the Batman tv series.
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Mike Bunge
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"I think people going into the Hulk movie expected Green Lou Ferrigno and "Don't make me angry..."."
True, but imagine what it was like taking a little kid to the movie, thinking it would be about a big, green monster smashing stuff...then sitting for the first 30 minutes through an indy movie about how a woman's bad relationship with her father affects all her relationships with men.
Mike
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Greg Kirkman
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In Incredible Hulk # 1, it took a mere four pages of story (not counting the splash image on page one) to turn Banner into the Hulk.
The movie took 40 minutes. I'm sure a revised comic origin would take four issues.
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Joe Zhang
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Anyway, Spider-Man's story is something of a coming-of-age story."
I agree. One of the things that was special about the original
Spider-Man stories was that it was about a kid trying to deal with
adult situations and adversaries. He had his wits and his superpowers,
but that was it.
In the current books either he is a teen dealing with teen issues, or a variously hobbled / successful adult.
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Matt Reed
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Or his eye is getting plucked out and eaten.
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Greg Kirkman
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So, again, the eternal question: Should it be an eternal coming-of-age story where the hero never comes of age, or one where he does come of age and has his eye ripped out?
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Lance Hill
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The CG Hulk stuff was well publicised. Most probably expected something like the TV show, but with new actors, fancy effects and an origin at the beginning. And honestly, I don't think I'd object to that.
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Michael Roberts
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The CG Hulk stuff was well publicised. Most probably expected something
like the TV show, but with new actors, fancy effects and an origin at
the beginning. And honestly, I don't think I'd object to that.
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I'm not sure how many people under-25 would be expecting the TV show, but they were certainly not expecting long, boring psychodrama interrupted by some action sequences. If the movie had been the desert sequence looped for two and a half hours, I would have enjoyed it much more.
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Eric Lund
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People going to a Charlie Brown movie expect to see Charlie Brown...and see Linus and Lucy and the football pulled out from underhim....
Not see Charlie with a doo rag on his head sporting 40's and Nine's while his beyotches Lucy and Sally wax his Jimmy....
The characters should stay true to their nature
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Mike Bunge
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"Not see Charlie with a doo rag on his head sporting 40's and Nine's while his beyotches Lucy and Sally wax his Jimmy"
Is it grammatically correct to capitalize "Jimmy" in that sentence?
Mike
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John Webb
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Maybe it;s just the USA that stopped reading Spider-Man. He still seems to be selling in huge numbers world wide!
"Marvel Comic's Spider-Man [is] one of the world's most recognizable and celebrated Super Heroes. Fifteen million Spider-Man comics are sold each year in 75 countries and in 22 languages, and a comic strip... is syndicated... in 500 newspapers worldwide." (From a Dec.'98 PRNewswire story)
http://comix35.gospelcom.net/Quote04.html
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