Stan Lee fought to make comics respected by the general public, and to give them some layered depth and resonance.

He did not fight to turn it into an "adult medium".

Mig Da Silva:  Fast forward six years in his life, and he's still what he was then. A prostitute with an excuse.

I don't recall any excuses, quite the opposite.  He's quite honest about it all.  He writes super-hero stories because Marvel tosses him lots of money to do so.  He writes his other, less profitable books for the love of doing it.

John Buscema was vocal about not liking super-heroes either.  Was he a prosititute, too?

So, how about some respect for one of the greatest talents this industry has produced, and less defense of the tourists who are helping destroy it?

JB:  You just crossed a serious line, Trevor, and in the process lost any whisper of respect I might have had for you. Comparing Buscema to any of these I'm-only-in-it-for-the-money assholes is simply beyond the pale. I know John said he didn't care for superheroes. I've also heard him grumble about how some other artist was "not getting" Thor. The man was a consumate professional and a gentleman. "Fuck superheroes" is not a phrase I could ever imagine passing his lips.

You missed my point, JB.  John Buscema is my favorite comic art, ever.  I mean, I'm a fan of your work, but Buscema's on a level that only Kirby can compare for me.  He's the man.  When I draw, I'm thinking, "I wish I could draw like John Buscema." 

What I'm saying is that Warren Ellis is NOT a whore for writing super-hero comics.  A hypocrite, sure, which is openly admits in that article I linked.

So, how about some respect for one of the greatest talents this industry has produced, and less defense of the tourists who are helping destroy it?

I bow before the talent of John Buscema, and am sad that you misinterpreted what I was trying to get at.

But I didn't know you had any respect for me before this ;-)

Maybe Ellis should be thankfull he has a job in the industry. If he would stop talking bullshit and actually think, he might realize his writing superhero books he hates is taking a living away from another writer who wants to create superhero comics for us to enjoy. If he were a real man of principle he would step down and allow one of the dozens of unemployed comic professionals to take over. Buck the system Warren, show them how much more important you are than their characters and leave. Then I might gain some respect for the man for he said fuck superheroes and left. Instead he says fuck superheroes and then will tell you about his new issue of Phone Bone Man he wants you to buy.

What Matt said in his first paragraph is what I was going for, expressed much finer.

Which "years"? It was as late as the 1970s that superheroes even began to assume a dominant role in the marketplace. It was the coming of the direct sales market which pushed this to full effect, as retailers and fans demanded more and more "hot" properties. Anything that wasn't superheroes was grossly under-ordered. Before that, THIS is what comics looked like:



And, yes, I am going to keep posting that image until EVERYBODY gets it!