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Brendan Howard
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Posted: 13 April 2006 at 11:45am | IP Logged | 1  

The American Pie kids are all high school seniors, and since they have sex on graduation night we could make the leap that they have all turned 18.

Fast Times at Ridgemont High, by contrast, had an explicit sex scene with a character who was a 14- or 15-year-old freshman. Looking back, I kind of understand why my mom didn't want me to see it when I was 12.

Teen sexuality doesn't make me go ewwww, but reckless teen sex infuriates me. Just like driving too fast and smoking "because it's cool," teenagers often can't see past the next weekend to think about the consequences of their actions. We all outgrow it, but sometimes that doesn't happen until damage has been done. 



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JB's Cassie was also someone with whom young girls could identify. This "hot" version is there solely for sexually screwed up, middle-aged fanboys.

Compare the current Kara Zor-El Supergirl to the one from the Silver Age. The latter was not sexualized -- she was the girl next door. That was part of her appeal.

It's impossible to imagine a comic from that period in which Supergirl had sex with, say, Robin. Not only would such a comic not see print but the very idea would have been seen as a bad joke or in bad taste. What's gained by our "freedom" now? Are the stories better?

Twenty years, even ten years ago, you could not have published a comic in which Superman, Batman*, or even Spider-Man had sex outside of marriage -- now we're publishing comics in which minors are having sex outside of marriage? Wow. It's The O.C., I guess.

*When Batman and Talia were together in the '80s, it was not in a regular comic and great pains were made to imply that they were married.

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Posted: 13 April 2006 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | 3  

Wow. It's The O.C., I guess.

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Well it is popular with teenagers and pre-teens, so i understand.

It is a weird thing, I normally would not have liked something like this, but I found something very sweet about the issue.  I don't know. I used to be a lot tougher on these things.

I will say that girls seem to identify a lot, unfortunately, with sexualized famous people.  The clothes and outfits are much racier much younger now.

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There are so many 20 something girls who are single moms that I see downtown at the bars whoring it up while their 5 year old kids are at home without a parent there that it is sick....

Hurray for progress....

It used to be a stigma to be a teenage mom now it is a badge of honor for a girl to squirt out a kid before she is 16 or even 14... and then leave the kid at home while they go out and find "New Daddy" for the night....

I got nothing against pre-mariatal sex at all but kids having kids and not taking care of them exspecially the girls who think having a kid at 14 is KEWL is disgusting and sad for the child.... I don't mind some stupid whore messing her own life up....go have it! But when they bring a kid into the world and then don't give it a stable environment and care THAT is the point where I draw the line...

Dead beat Dads get it as well and they suck just as much..take F#$#ing responsablity for the kids you bring in this world! end of rant
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It is a weird thing, I normally would not have liked something like this, but I found something very sweet about the issue.  I don't know. I used to be a lot tougher on these things.

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Rob, I had much the same reaction as you. 

I also felt that it gave the events in IC 6 more of an emotional push.
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What they have done is solve the wrong problem. They, I presume did  not want any flak for portraying obviousely young characters having sexual relations. The moral majority might also argue that comics that feature such young looking characters could be used as grooming tools by unsavoury adults. If that is the case then ageing these guys and girls make sense. Of course the easiest way to solve the problem is to not create it in the first place by not sexualising the characters at all. But that would be to simple.
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Before the OYL jump, IIRC, Cassie was 16 and Superboy was physically 18 (his actual age is about 4 since he's a clone).
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Posted: 13 April 2006 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 8  

In response to JB's original post:  Have you seen some of these teenagers lately.  I don't remember them to be that..."well rounded" when I was in high school.
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I was not so much bothered by the idea of Conner and Cassie sleeping with
each other than by the lack of ambiguity surrounding it. I would have
preferred that it was strongly implied, rather than shown. The art in the
Annual and the narrative captions in TT #33 leave no room for other
interpretations of what went on between them.
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Todd Douglas
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True, Clint.

When at the mall or movie theatre, my wife and I will sometimes pass the time with a game of "Jailbait or Not."

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It used to be a stigma to be a teenage mom now it is a badge of honor for a girl to squirt out a kid before she is 16 or even 14...

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I had managed to forget (mostly) Whoopi Goldberg playing the proud grandmother when her 14 year old daughter gave girth, as Whoopi had at the same age.

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It used to be a stigma to be a teenage mom now it is a badge of honor for a girl to squirt out a kid before she is 16 or even 14...

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Its this administrations failed policy about abstinece.  They don't want the kids having sex.  The problem is they are and they are not going to stop.  We have to do something!

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