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Mike Bunge Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:18am | IP Logged | 1
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"We'll, he's worked with Maleev long enough that they've obviously found a personal rhythm that works for them."
That true, but giving an artist a list of 5 panels like that - one of which has no meaningful description at all, one involving the characters moving, one with very specific instructions and two that are supposed to look exactly alike - would seem pretty frustrating if you're not used to it.
And of course there's the fact that Bendis apparently full-scripts his work, not because the complexity of detail or the work really needs it but because he structures the story around his precious dialog. Which would be okay if he was writing a stage play. It's not so great for a comic book.
Mike
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Aleksei Green Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:36am | IP Logged | 2
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So many male writers are almost misogynistic in their portrayal of female characters. And some fan boys seem to be turned on by the huge breasted cartoon drawings. I can never understand why a man would be attracted to a comic book drawing.
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Joe Mayer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:42am | IP Logged | 3
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My point on unplanned pregrancies is that it is vertually impossible to narrow down a route cause because they are, well, unplanned. The argument of religion playing a part in the decision not to use contraception is rather misguided as the same religion would have had an impact on the decision to have sex in the first place.
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Dave Carr Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:58am | IP Logged | 4
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Joe Mayer wrote:
My point on unplanned pregrancies is that it is vertually impossible to narrow down a route cause because they are, well, unplanned. |
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Well, there is the most obvious root cause. Boy and girl wanted to get it on, and did not let the lack of a condom or birth control pill stop them. The responsibilty for any complications of that act begin, and end with them.
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The argument of religion playing a part in the decision not to use contraception is rather misguided as the same religion would have had an impact on the decision to have sex in the first place. |
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Deists arbitrarily picking and choosing which of their "rules" to adhere to? Naw, that's never happened. :)
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Andrew Paul Leyland Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 474
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | 5
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"They are all sitting (or combination sitting and standing) around a table."
In a BENDIS! comic? You do surprise me...
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Brendan Howard Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 6
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I agree with you, Joe. I never said religious was a cause, but it can be a factor, and it was in the example I wrote about. Remember?
Forbidden fruit + natural human urges + Catholic guilt = unplanned pregnancy.
I don't have numbers to back it up, but intellectually I think it is more likely that a population being told that birth control and abortion are bad would be less likely to use birth control and have abortions than population who has been raised with an agnostic viewpoint ... which leads to unintended pregnancies and unwanted children, which is not an ideal situation.
Rather than hijack this thread, I'll leave it at that.
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Rob Hewitt Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 7
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The Catholic guilt would come after the fact. It wouldn't be a factor in the action. and you would think since they are told (which many are not about birth control) that birth control and abortion is bad, and lets say they are told the same thing about sex as well if we are going to hit all the catholic notes that are always hit, you would think they would avoid sex too.
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 8
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Let's blame God for making the whole process so darned enjoyable! If
he'd done it so when men ejaculated we felt what women went through in
child birth, I think that'd take care of your teenage preganancies
right there. So how about God as your root cause!?
Buck stops with him.
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Brendan Howard Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:19pm | IP Logged | 9
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Lots of religious kids do avoid sex. However, I don't need to tell you that sex feels good and can be done with stuff you have lying around the house (i.e. human bodies). A great reward without much of a barrier.
Meanwhile, going on the pill, buying condoms, or getting an abortion are actions that involve leaving the house and handing over money to an authority figure. Barrier city.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:25pm | IP Logged | 10
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How many teens wishing to remain chaste are tempted by sex? How many teens wishing to follow the bans against birth control are tempted to whip on a condom or take the pill? Which "sin" are you more likely to avoid?
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Rob Hewitt Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:27pm | IP Logged | 11
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It's a moot point for most Catholics anyway, since they don't get sermons against birth control (unless they go to Catholic School or have very strict parents). They are as likely to use it as any other group. They have been pretty much assimilated into society and their views reflect that
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:38pm | IP Logged | 12
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So how about God as your root cause!?
Buck stops with him.
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Isn't that a given?
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