Rob H: True, but then, you don't see much of these characters anymore.  They have lost a lot of relevance to today's kids/fans. They are corporate symbols, but few are paying for new adventures in this country (cartoons or comics).

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I don't think that's accurate-- Disney Channel's been running House of Mouse for a long while and they do release new stuff with the classic characters from time to time. Plus Disney Adventures Digest is full of Mickey et al. Just because non-parents older than 20 don't pay attention doesn't mean it isn't out there.

In superhero comics, it appears to me that the characters change in inverse proportion to the audience changing, i.e. when the audience changed every few years, the characters basically stayed the same; now that the audience doesn't change much, the characters change a lot more.

Stan Lee said "Never give the fans what they think they want." How sad that no one seems to remember that.

I don't think that true.

First of all, most people today don't grow up until their mid 20s-at least!

Second, he isn't screwing up as much as Spider-man makes demands on his time and thus sometimes he can't do all he could do otherwise.

Off the top of my head, I am trying to think of how Peter Parker screw up anyway.  He has problems, as an everyman type of guy , but how does he screw up? Even in the past, most of the time he seemingly screwed up, he didn't-he simply had responsibilities as Spider-man which overcame other things he had to do as Peter Parker, and for which he would not have been blamed, had people known what he was actually doing.

QUOTE: A teenager who screws up is a teenager. A 26 year-old married man who screws up the same way is a loser.

 

Im the one who said he isn't 26.  20 or 22 is the right age for that.  Youre smart enough not to do the dumb stuff you did as a teenager.  But still dumb enough to think you're done doing dumb stuff. 

QUOTE: Off the top of my head, I am trying to think of how Peter Parker screw up anyway.  He has problems, as an everyman type of guy , but how does he screw up? Even in the past, most of the time he seemingly screwed up, he didn't-he simply had responsibilities as Spider-man which overcame other things he had to do as Peter Parker, and for which he would not have been blamed, had people known what he was actually doing.

 

Im thinking of the first apperence of Doc Ock.  He had gotten the big head from beating the Vulture, and though there was nobody who could beat him.  Then Doc beats the tar out of him with ease.