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Al Cook
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It's not the Ordway that I liked so much about these issues, it's the Workman
lettering!
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Joe Franklin
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I loved Malice!
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Michael Arndt
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Great issue. Loved the opening page with the spot where the Baxter Building used to be. A nice touch was the store owner upset over his loss. Shows that the F.F. were not the only ones to have a loss. Malice was fantastic (no pun intended). I really enjoyed seeing Sue unleash her power.
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John Byrne
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Unfortunately, another writer brought Malice back, as a kind of "Dark Invisible Girl" -- which kinda missed the point of my whole story.Ah, well! Better writers than I have seen their work pillaged. At least I'm in good company!
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Greg Kirkman
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This (and the next few issues) are really great. And, of course, Sue's emotional rape at the hands of the Psycho-Man and Hate-Monger is quite shocking (and rather painful to see). Yes, this is quite a different beast from Dark Phoenix.
Edited by Greg Kirkman on 05 August 2007 at 12:05pm
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Lars Skau
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Ordway really did a great job on Byrnes FF issues.
I'll allways prefer JBs own inking but some inkers do seem to fit perfectly to JBs work.
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Gerry Turnbull
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SHUMF is a great sound effect !
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David Ferguson
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I think the Malice story was what finally made Sue an interesting character for me. Seeing her overcome this sold her as a strong character (unlike the cartoon where my brother and I wondered "why does she faint everytime she uses her powers?")
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Mark Haslett
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This issue gave me the heebie-jeebies.
That Malice costume has, er... striking highlights. Very becoming.
One thing about the way JB draws sexy women is that he remembers women are supposed to have stomachs.
With Reed's reference that he's been in the Baxter building as long as Abe (22 years?) -- Was he in there a long time before his fateful flight to the stars?
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John Byrne
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With Reed's reference that he's been in the Baxter
building as long as Abe…
•••
Better read that again.
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Mark Haslett
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With Reed's reference that he's been in the Baxter
building as long as Abe…
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Better read that again.
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Yikes.
Well, perhaps of interest-- in search of an answer to my own confusion, I pulled out FF #3 and see that Stan scripted the introduction to the Baxter building without reference to how long they've been there. Though it clearly doesn't appear in issues #1 or #2, there isn't anything to indicate it couldn't exist [as their base].
I'm sure some one pinned this down, but I confess that I don't know when in the FF's history the Baxter Building is supposed to have entered.
Edited by Mark Haslett on 05 August 2007 at 3:59pm
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John Byrne
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I pulled out FF #3 and see that Stan scripted the introduction to the Baxter building without reference to how long they've been there. Though it clearly doesn't appear in issues #1 or #2, there isn't anything to indicate it couldn't exist [as their base>.•• Better reread that first issue, too. The FF were in "Central City" there (and possibly in the second issue, too.) New York is not named until issue 4, tho the Baxter Building (their "secret skyscraper headquarters" first shows up in 3. Spider-Man followed a similar pattern, tho it took Stan longer to nail down just where in New York Peter Parker lived, after he "moved" from the small town (Midtown High?) of his early adventures. (Florida? There's a base that launches Mercury capsules just outside of town!)
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