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Carmen Bernardo
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Doing work that way comes with decades of experience. At this stage, Jack just knew where to put the lines without the need for a layout sketch.
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Jack's theory that Doom's face isn't horribly disfigured...except to his
own eyes.
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I can buy that up until Doom puts on the burning hot metal mask.
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I can buy that up until Doom puts on the burning hot metal mask.

No, in the original story it not completely cooled. It had been dipped in liquid and was still steaming, that's all. 


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Jack's theory that Doom's face isn't horribly disfigured...except to his own eyes.

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But as pointed out here, Jack drew both he and Stan recoiling at the site of Doom's face. Or maybe they just wanted Doom to know that they couldn't identify him in a line-up. 

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I always liked the idea of Doom having only a scar.  
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I think the original intent was for Doom to have a horribly disfigured face. I
like the way JB seemed to reconcile both the single scar and horribly
disfigured face stories.
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I like the small scar. Doctor Doom has always been a fascinating character psychologically; his arrogance and hubris would be comical if he weren't so dangerous, and encasing himself in armor because of a scratch on his face is perfectly in character for a man who apparently awarded himself an honorary doctorate.

It doesn't matter if it contradicts stories like Fantastic Four #10. Kirby and Lee worked worked together on the character for eight years, and it's natural they would develop their ideas over that time, rather than being beholden to their early work.
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It doesn't matter if it contradicts stories like Fantastic Four #10. Kirby and Lee worked worked together on the character for eight years, and it's natural they would develop their ideas over that time, rather than being beholden to their early work. 

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But Lee continued to write Doom as horribly disfigured, considering Donald Blake's horrible bedside manner in Thor.

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The small scar preying on the mind of the perfectionist is a cute idea, but isn't sufficiently good to get rid of the 'so horrible we can never see it' version.

So I'm with Wallace -- JB's version cleverly incorporates the small-scar version and what that tells us about Doom's vanity whilst retaining the Doom is horribly scarred version. Even more briliant, JB's version has the latter being the tragic result of Doom's own hubris.
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Wow! I've never seen that Dr. Blake / Dr. Doom page but it seems outrageously out of character for Blake!!!

As to Doom's disfigurement: I have never thought of it as being worse than that of DC's Unknown Soldier -- which is more sad than horrible in my eyes.

After all, Doom appears to be able to partake of food and drink, and his speech has never sounded (been depicted as) coming though lips damaged with dangling flesh. At worst, his face is scarred like Vincent Price's in House of Wax. Sure, momentarily shocking, but nothing to run to the hills from, legs up your arse. 

In fact, the ultimate disfigurement was shown by JB when the Demon bit off what-his-face's -- huh -- face.

I think it's far more horrible to realize that Doom's disfigurement is in his own mind: Ben Grimm might be unlovely on the outside but he's a shining paragon on the inside that even infants have been shown to gravitate to under the Lee & Kirby years.

But Doom is the other way around: it's his twisted notions of perfection that makes him truly repulsive.




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My preference as a youngster reading the books was to think that Doom's experimental attempt to contact his mother in Hell blew open a portal to the nether-regions with could be seen through Doom's face. Much like Eternity seems to be a window of sorts into everywhere and the picture is forever changing, the view into Hell would roll across his features, leaving glimpses of flesh to account for the number of times we see portions of his face that are not windows into Hell. Just a theory to account for the horror on the features of Lee, Kirby, Blake, and Sue when they've seen him unmasked.

There is a mini-series scripted by Brubaker I believe that had Doom remove his mask for the benefit of a reporter to whom he'd deigned to grant an interview. I'm still uncertain if the almost entirely mechanical face shown at the end was meant as a reveal that she'd been conversing with a Doombot the whole time or if that really was supposed to be Doom himself, almost completely cybernetic beneath his mask.

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