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Kevin Hagerman
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Thought I'd start a thread on the wit, the wisdom, the writing of John Byrne.  Being a thread on the internet, ANYTHING can happen, but I'd like to try a few ground rules.

01.  One quote at a time

02.  Attribution: guessing games are fine if you don't leave us hanging for ages.  I hate that - I'll spend a day going through my boxes of comics until I can find a quote.  It's not YOUR fault I'm anal, I know...

 

Okay, here's mine: the most poignant moment from Next Men:  Jasmine, in the shower, reflecting on her situation (at this point she is being manipulated by Hilltop most cruelly).  "I just can't make this real."

This moment really brought home both her current situation and her unescapable genesis: born into an unreal world where she could shape her own existence with a thought, and thrust into a world - our world, but alien, and THEN to tumble into a third "reality" where she is surrounded by lies - and, unable to reconcile all this, she basically blames herself.  Gutwrenching.

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"Someone who does the right thing, for the right reason(s), in the face of potentially great personal loss and with little chance of reward, when it would be easier to walk away."

-The definition of a hero, from the old NetWork54 board.



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Damnit, Greg, you beat me to it.
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"Now, if I can have that mag back, I think I have a pair of green-tinted sunglasses in my old room, here".

Johnny Storm - Fantastic Four #275 (The Naked Truth)

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"I am a cog in the machine which is Marvel Comics and I rejoice in that."

John Byrne, "On Creator's Rights" Comics Scene 2, March, 1982.


(I think that op-ed was a slap of reality across the face of many comic
creators at the time.)

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And, boy, how many times has that line been quoted out of context! (Even here, technically.)

My piece, for the benefit of those who have not read it, was about creator's rights and something I dubbed "creator's wrongs". At the time, there was much noise about how the creators should own everything they do, and the companies should be allowed only to publish the work. Sounds good in principle, I said, but what about the bombs? For every (imaginary) hit like HOWARD THE DUCK there was an OMEGA THE UNKNOWN. Should the creators get the goodies, but not have to take the financial hit when their work tanked?

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"No, I ain't all right...I ain't ever gonna be all right again..."

Ben Grimm - Fantastic Four #238 (The More Things Change...)

A very powerful scene that has just stayed with me ever since I first read it some 25 years ago, at the age of 12.



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John Byrne wrote:

And, boy, how many times has that line been quoted out of context! (Even
here, technically.)

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I had originally added more from the article - "You-mean-the-rules-that-
have-been-in-effect-for-the-last-40-years-apply-to me?" - for context,
but since the RULES of this thread stated ONE quote only, I had to take it
out!

But it's here now, through a technicality...



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 QUOTE:
My piece, for the benefit of those who have not read it, was about creator's rights and something I dubbed "creator's wrongs". At the time, there was much noise about how the creators should own everything they do, and the companies should be allowed only to publish the work. Sounds good in principle, I said, but what about the bombs? For every (imaginary) hit like HOWARD THE DUCK there was an OMEGA THE UNKNOWN. Should the creators get the goodies, but not have to take the financial hit when their work tanked?

Not a bad question come to think of it.  Had McFarlane's Spider-Man been a flop and Marvel, rather than he, had to absorb the impact, would he still feel he was "screwed" by them?

 

 

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Naomi Watts






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Naomi Watts




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Steve Horton
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Um... wrong thread?
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I never said that! (Wish I had!)
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Kevin Hagerman
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Best.  Thread drift.  EVER.

 

Anywho...

Thor, in Namor, The Sub-Mariner #13, about to testify in court, on swearing on the Bible:  "Ah!  Thou doth perceive in this what mortals call a 'conflict of interests?'  Fear not.  It's enough for Thor to know yon book hath meaning for the people of this court.  I shall give mine oath upon it... and that oath shall be as binding on the son of Odin as on any good Christian!"  (bolds not mine)

 

You gotta love him referring to the prosecutor as "Yon scurrilous pleader" later on, when things get a tad heated!

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Who's the second girl? It's not Naomi Watts.
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Zaki Hasan
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That's Monica Potter.
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Um... wrong thread?

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More like... next to no thread.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.


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