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Brian Miller
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Posted: 07 March 2021 at 2:41pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

JB, did you have plot lines running up to (and possibly including) events
in GSX-M 1 already planned out?

Obviously, this is in reference to XHY

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I did plan to end with everyone heading off to Krakoa.
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I suspect that the traditional comic book, in "pamphlet" form (bad term, but better than "floppies") is not long for this world. I can't imagine a comics biz without Marvel and DC, for better or worse. But sales of "pamphlets" don't make much money for Warner Bros./AT&T and Disney. I presume they lose money by printing comics, albeit not much money, since they make up the costs by owning DC and Marvel characters as intellectual property that they use for movies, TV shows, merchandising. 

Even if the Big Two suddenly tried to get very accessible superhero comics into the hands of tweens and teens via newsstands, I doubt that would have much effect. Do Gen Z youth even know what a newsstand is? 

Even if the Direct Market hadn't "taken over everything," I doubt that comic book history would end up very different from where it currently is.

(Forgive me for reiterating what some here have already said, I suppose I'm not saying anything distinctive here.)

This won't mean the end of sequential art-based storytelling. Fantagraphics and Drawn & Quarterly and other graphic-novels-for-adults companies will still send original graphic novels to bookstores. Young people will still buy manga and maybe even superhero-based OGNs. Maybe Image Comics will survive and still publish OGNs that  once would have been published by DC's Vertigo imprint, or Dark Horse, or some other company. 

But the age of the superhero comic book may be over, and with it the Direct Market. Other than what I said above, I'm reluctant to make predictions.

The last time superhero comics died it meant the rise of EC Comics -- and those comics were much better than the generally one-dimensional and badly drawn comics of the "Golden Age." We know what happened afterward.

Who knows what will happen now.


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The last time superhero comics died it meant the rise of EC Comics -- and those comics were much better than the generally one-dimensional and badly drawn comics of the "Golden Age."

Agree, huge EC fan.

I often think what would've happened if the Wertham thing hadn't happened or taken hold. 

Probably things would be in a better shape now for comics.


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 Adam Schulman wrote:
I presume they lose money by printing comics


Why would you assume that? There may not be the same level of return on investment as, say, mass marketing t-shirts, but it's hard to imagine a major corporation being okay with losing money.
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They cost $3.99 each so they WON'T lose money!

But I do wonder if they could make MORE money by charging $1.99!  (Volume!)
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Disney may not lose money on Marvel comics, true. I don't know if that's the case with WB/AT&T and DC. 

Would going down to $1.99 require going back to an older style of paper? (I can't imagine going back to newsprint. Baxter paper maybe, like certain titles had in the late '80s?)
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I don't think the elasticity of demand is there to make more money by such a pricing change. They would have to sell twice as much to just stand still. Is there really such a dormant base of buyers who are put off by the price?
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I don't think the elasticity of demand is there to make more money by such a pricing change.

I don't know either but I do know it's ridiculous to pony up $4 or $5 for a single comic when a month of Netflix, Disney +, PS Plus or most subscription services set you back around $10 or less.







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At this point I'm used to digital comics. I have no problem reading them in that format. I kind of prefer it. No need for more longboxes. (Yes, I do prefer TPBs or getting original graphic novels in paperback format.)
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I now buy most of my comics in digital - I just don’t have the space for
any more physical comics & I travelled a ridiculous amount pre-Covid -
so digital killed two birds with one stone.

Due to that, & the constant sales on Comixology, I have read comics
that I would not have dreamed of in physical form.
I have read a lot more non-super hero based comics, a lot of older
comics & comics from publishers I never touched when I visited a
comic shop.
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 John Byrne wrote:
I did plan to end with everyone heading off to Krakoa.

Is there any chance you could finish XHY in the new X-Men Legends book?
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