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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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Posted: 26 November 2020 at 10:31pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Kevin got the perfect answer.

As a French, I find the US voting system quite
strange. For us in France, when we cast our vote, it's
for one kind of purpose.
If it is a Presidential election, well just the
Presidential candidates to choose from; if it is a
deputy or senatorial election, it is a separate
election.
And each vote counts for its own chosen candidate. We
don't have electoral super delegates voting
afterwards, maybe against our will because it is a
take it all scenario.

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(Content removed - John W, as I said previously, you can't post lies here. You
are cutting and pasting false data. Please provide links to your sources. --
Tim)




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Posted: 27 November 2020 at 3:47pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I just hope Biden can win over a chunk of the American people who didn't vote for him. It seems a mammoth task.

I have no doubt that the election was fair and that he won by millions of votes, but unfortunately there are some worrying polls floating around suggesting a large % of Republicans believe Trump's lies that it was a fraudulent victory. And that is a very worrying state of affairs.

I wish Biden nothing but the best of luck.
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Posted: 27 November 2020 at 6:33pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

"I just hope Biden can win over a chunk of the American people who didn't vote for him. It seems a mammoth task."

I hope so too.  If people give him a chance I think he'll be okay.  I think the biggest challenge he will have to overcome is hyper-partisanship on both sides.  

If progressives and the far right are allowed to dominate the political narratives, people will continue to hate all things right, or all things left, Biden will be lumped in with "the left," and will never be embraced by Republicans.

There are genuine and deep differences of opinion on what policies are in the best interests of the country moving forward.  However, there are some areas where there is common ground and great opportunities to compromise, ie the next COVID relief bill.  

Biden would be wise to start with some of those compromise areas.  Show that he is still the guy who is willing to reach across party lines.  That might go a long way towards de-toxifying all of the rhetoric that is pitting us against each other. 


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I think compromise will be key as well, John. It works both ways, of course and that is part of the problem with this hyper-partisanship, as you call it. Both sides are wary of getting hoodwinked by the other. And ridiculously, you end up with what is basically enmity rather than progress. 
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Posted: 30 November 2020 at 2:36pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

51 more days...  Fingers crossed they fly by without incident.
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Biden would be wise to start with some of those compromise areas.  Show that he is still the guy who is willing to reach across party lines.  That might go a long way towards de-toxifying all of the rhetoric that is pitting us against each other.

It's amazing how effective the Republican Party was at gaslighting the whole country into thinking that Obama, a centrist technocrat who first gained national attention with his speech about "purple states" and made significant attempts at bipartisanship in his first term, was a leftist socialist devil.

You know what would go a long way to getting rid of partisanship? Getting rid of that asshole Mitch McConnell. Until then, fuck reaching across the aisle. Biden will just get screwed over like Obama did.
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Posted: 30 November 2020 at 7:51pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Gaslighting is right. If you listen to Republicans, Obama's administration was eight long years of gangster rap and anti-White demagoguery.
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Posted: 30 November 2020 at 11:06pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans seize control of the electoral college and re-elect Trump. Not because I want it to happen (I don't). It's because the legal challenges are in Republican states. And nothing this crazy has been done before at this scale. And if Trump is good at anything, its bending a system until it breaks in his favor (like he did with all the bankers who lost billions to him, or how he took over the Republican party.) 

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With most of the swing States certifying the votes, and the judgements from the courts in the past few weeks, it seems unlikely Trump and his cronies can affect the Electoral College at this point. His last, desperate gasp is trying to get the Supreme Court to hear his case, and then banking on his "investments" in that court paying off.

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Michael, 
As a registered Republican, I'd totally be willing to dump Mitch McConnell (in a heartbeat!) if Nancy Pelosi would get out. Pick another Republican lawmaker and dump Schumer. Keep going until we get leaders of both parties to start working together. 
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I understand the idea of ridding both parties of bad politicians one for one, but there doesn’t seem to be any politician in the last 10 years except Trump that is on par with McConnell’s detrimental activity. Many politicians get vilified by their opponents, but the list of factual offences brought by McConnell opponents dwarfs any other politician’s detractors. A key distinction is factual offences. That alone makes the one for one exercise futile. 
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