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John Byrne
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Posted: 03 September 2020 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

So now she has Super Powers?

Talk about missing the point!

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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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Posted: 03 September 2020 at 11:07pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I have zero interest in that movie. I prefer to stay
with the memory of the cartoon.
Side note about that... back then, I got the
opportunity ( because I was already living in Hong
Kong ) to see the animated movie not only in English,
but also in Cantonese and even in Mandarin.
For the later one, it was with my team in China, and I
still remember how it made the experience more...
authentic. I had done this prior with both English and
French versions of Beaty and the Beast...





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Wilson Mui
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Posted: 04 September 2020 at 9:17am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I agree. It would have been good if this
was done in Mandarin like Crotching Tiger,
Hidden Dragon.
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Posted: 04 September 2020 at 9:52am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

How did they handle Mushu, Didier?
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Wilson Mui
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Posted: 05 September 2020 at 5:33pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I watched Mulan last night and enjoyed it quite a bit. In
this version, Mulan was taught how to fight by her
father, who is a war hero. She also has some special
abilities, but no more than the typical Chinese folklore
hero dodging arrows and jumping 10 ft into the air.

My daughter boycotted it because she heard Disney didn't
use an Asian crew to make the movie.

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Neil Lindholm
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Posted: 05 September 2020 at 8:55pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Has it come to that? Now the crew must fit into the required demographic?
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Wilson Mui
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Posted: 05 September 2020 at 10:56pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I can see her point. I would have liked there to be more
Asians involved, too. The director, screenwriters,
cinematographer, casting director, composer and costume
designer were all white. People were saying why the
costumes were from the wrong dynasty.

Another reason for boycotting the movie was that the lead
actor Liu Yifei expressed support for the Hong Kong
police.
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Posted: 06 September 2020 at 12:37am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Ok, I am not going to debate this issue. I feel that we are so far apart on this issue that there is no point in commenting further. 
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Wilson Mui
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Posted: 06 September 2020 at 12:50am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Disney can make whatever movie they want with whomever they want.
It just would have been better if there were more diversity in key
positions behind the camera.
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Posted: 06 September 2020 at 3:51am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Aargh, I can't help myself. 

How do you suggest they do that? No matter how they group their employees according to their genetic backgrounds and skin pigmentation, people will be unhappy. Would a third-generation American with a Korean background be acceptable for a film about China or should only Chinese-born crew members be the preferred workers? Does this mean that a movie about Queen Elizabeth must only have British crew members and actors? And how do you define "Asian"? Would a person with a Filipina mother and a white father be deemed Asian enough, even though they might show an outward appearance of being white? I worked with a guy a few years back who was half-Chinese but showed zero Chinese physical characteristics. Would he be unacceptable? Not diverse enough? 

This is all so tiresome. Many of us here were raised as children to ignore the outer appearance of people we meet and to judge them on their actions and deeds. Now it seems we are to judge people based on their skin pigmentation or where exactly they were born and if they fit into a certain demographic defined by the chattering classes. 

Back to Mulan. I wonder if this experiment of Disney will be successful and if so, will it be the end of theatres? If they make a pile on this release, will this be the future model?


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Posted: 06 September 2020 at 9:45am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

My family watched it last night. I prefer the cartoon but my wife and daughter loved it.
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Posted: 06 September 2020 at 9:48am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

For the Black Panther movie, Marvel made the effort to bring in more
blacks and women onto the crew (director, production design, hair dept
head, etc). Disney should have done it here with the various dept
heads. When people feel more invested in a project, the end product
tends to be better. Look at Black Panther and Crazy Rich Asians. Not
saying it would have been easy, but it might have been worth it.

It is also the issue of having more opportunities for minorities. Most of
the higher profile positions in the business tend to go to white people.
Black Panther was the exception from what I read. Institutional racism
is a real thing and saying we should ignore color only helps maintain
the status quo.
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