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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 18 August 2020 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

There's plenty of stuff that I thought was g-r-r-r-eat! that I find I'm no longer in the zone to like.  Some stuff is perennial, though. It's a real toss-up.  One that I was surprised that I couldn't connect to in the same way as an adult is Gaiman's "Sandman" - surprised because I still think it was clearly a masterwork in mainstream comics, but that I couldn't get into the mindset of the characters as I could in my late teens and early 20s.  Kinda like "Catcher in the Rye" in that regard - you sort of have to be the right age and right mindset to have it impact you in the ideal way.

I do tell the kids in my classes who are interested in jumping on to comics that Sandman is a must - pretty much exactly for the above reasons.


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Funny you should say that Dave.
I reread Sandman last year & found it to drag on and on and on.

I did not find that to be the case in my twenties
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I read Starman about 10 years ago in my 30's, I liked it but it was one of those books that I never need to read again. Had I read it in college, I could see myself lauding it among the best stuff I've ever read. 
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The mention of Eclipso was unexpected. After all, he's a Silver Age character. He wasn't an enemy of the original JSA. If he ever appeared, with or without Bruce Gordon, I assumed it would be on Prime Earth with Supergirl, Superman, the Flash (Barry), Black Lightning, Batwoman, and so on. 
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The mention of Eclipso was unexpected. After all, he's a Silver Age character. He wasn't an enemy of the original JSA.

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Eclipso has connections to Yolanda, Beth, and Yolanda’s cousin, Alex, in the comics. 


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Yeah, he was well-featured in Johns' JSA run. It'll be interesting to see what they do with him here.
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 James Woodcock wrote:
I reread Sandman last year & found it to drag on and on and on.


It's possible that the pacing worked better as a monthly series than collected.  I was also thinking that since a good portion of the reader's interest is in teasing out some of the mysteries in place from the beginning (such as the lost sibling), that aspect of the story is lost.  "Watchmen" has a similar... problem (isn't the right word, but moving on) in the central mystery of who killed The Comedian.  But while Watchmen is structured like a murder mystery, Moore has so many other irons in the fire that it's an easy thing to reread even knowing the outcome.

Which isn't to say that I think Moore is a superior writer to Gaiman, but obviously building a lasting run of 75 issues is a much different ask than a tight 12, and I think there were a number of other things that wound Sandman in a death by 1000 cuts, not least of which the varying styles (and let's face it, quality) of art in Sandman just can't deliver on the order of a master stylist like Gibbons who's totally in sync with the writer from the get go.
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Just re-read Starman and still like it (20s when it came out; 40s now). If nothing else, the Jack in space story that seemed like it would never end at the time (or maybe start would be more appropriate) is a lot easier to take all at once.

Of course, I re-read Sandman last year and still like it, so... :-)
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 Michael Roberts wrote:
Eclipso has connections to Yolanda, Beth, and Yolanda’s cousin, Alex, in the comics.


That's an... interesting way to put it. :-)
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