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Kevin Brown
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Posted: 17 December 2020 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

My deepest condolences, Brian.
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Matt Reed
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Posted: 18 December 2020 at 6:52am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Sorry for your loss, Brian.  
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Posted: 18 December 2020 at 7:55am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

When the headlines hit home. Condolences to you and yours, Brian.
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Brad Wilders
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Posted: 18 December 2020 at 8:13am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

JB: Why do old and sick get preference over young and healthy?

Because if you catch the virus, you are much, much more likely to have a severe illness that requires hospitalization or causes death than a young, healthy person.  Age alone is a significant factor even if not adjusting for the potential co-morbidities you list: 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi gations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html

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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 18 December 2020 at 8:38am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Condolences, Brian. My brother, down in Georgia, has informed me he has tested positive. Fingers crossed. =/

Meanwhile, I just saw where Pfizer is waiting for instruction from the US Government regarding where to send the vaccine. Looks like the US Corona Virus Task Force is as inept as I feared. I don't see how this is Pfizer's fault because every other country that has ordered and bought vaccine from them has received it in a timely manner.


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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 18 December 2020 at 12:30pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply


"we want them infected": the official WH 'strategy' of a herd mentality (moooo!). This is why the ridiculing of and sowing doubt about masks (and now the vaccines)... this why schools 'must' be open... this why the many large group events continuing... this is why the unceasing contradicting of the medically educated... this is why the border stays closed... this is why the worst numbers on the planet!

Herds and herd immunity are for dumb animals who can't do any better, I would hope for better.

I'm worried about two (maybe even three now) friends in wheelchairs who have no choice but to use elevators with stories of younger unmasked fools crowding into their space, even ignoring their pleas... the handicapped and aged have no choice, the rest of us should be using stairs wherever possible! :^(

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James Johnson
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Posted: 31 December 2020 at 7:37am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

This is something that some folks feared may happen.


Hopefully this person will serve some serious jail time for intentionally tampering with a hospitals batch of Covid-19 vaccine.

So now, how can health officials convince the public that the vaccine (outside of known side effects) is safe from tampering?


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Peter Hicks
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When the vaccine first arrived at my local hospital, the media showed film of a lab tech moving it in on a cart.   With a uniformed police officer walking right behind her.   In Canada, the government has not been shy to admit there are people who would like to steal or destroy vaccines.   There are always visible police or troops when large amounts of doses are shipped here.
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