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Mike Norris
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Posted: 25 January 2020 at 8:07pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Had a thought today. Could Kirby have based the name Kalibak on the Shakespeare character Caliban? Kirby wasn't afraid of taking inspiration from literature and myth on occasion. 
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Posted: 25 January 2020 at 11:42pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Kirby drew inspiration from everything around him. He reportedly worked with the television on and included elements from what he was seeing into his pages. The Newsboy Legion member Flippa Dippa was supposedly suggested by comedian Flip Wilson coming down a staircase in a scuba suit on television. Don Rickles appearing in Jimmy Olsen may have just been Kirby seeing him on the Tonight Show.  

The Fourth World may get its name from the television news talking so often about conditions in the Third World. If there are only three here on Earth, then the Fourth would have to be elsewhere... Mark Evanier talks about Kirby setting up an arrangement of blocks, household items, and a coffee pot and then drawing a fantastical cityscape based loosely upon what he'd constructed.

Nothing was ever literally transposed in any of the stories I've read about Kirby's work habits. It was always re-imagined and transmogrified into something previously unseen on this Earth, but it usually came from very humble beginnings others might simply have ignored. 

Of course, there are also stories of Kirby simply starting at the top left hand corner of the page and building the page diagonally as he worked toward the bottom right, with no hint as to what was informing his progress aside from his own creativity, craftsmanship, and experience. 

Caliban seems as likely a starting point as any for Kirby. I myself have wondered if he was somehow connected in Kirby's imagination with the Captain Marvel villain Ibac. I don't know that Kirby himself would remember or that it matters one way or another.

How things came about often has little bearing on what is done with them once they exist. Bob Dylan's "Quinn the Eskimo" supposedly originated with him walking by a theater showing "The Savage Innocents" and finding the notion of Anthony Quinn playing an Inuit hunter ridiculous. Apocryphal? Perhaps. But it ultimately has little to do with the feelings and meaning associated with the song by fans of Dylan's work since.


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Posted: 26 January 2020 at 5:37am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Going the other way with it, I've always thought CLASH of the TITANS writers took inspiration from Kirby for Calibos.
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Colin Ian Campbell
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Posted: 26 January 2020 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I've seen it suggested that Flippa Dippa was inspired by a character played by Cleavon Little in a 1967 off-Broadway play, Scuba Duba.
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Posted: 27 January 2020 at 1:48am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Ikaris, Makkari, Zuras,Thena, Ajak i wonder where he got
inspiration for those names?
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Posted: 27 January 2020 at 2:58am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Ikaris, Makkari, Zuras,Thena, Ajak i wonder where he got  inspiration for those names?

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Icarus, Mercury, Zeus, Athena, and Ajax?
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Posted: 27 January 2020 at 2:59am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Brian Cronin writes a column for the CBR site that attempts to put comic book moments that are still remembered today in the context of their times, helping to explain the thinking behind them for readers today. 

Star Trek's third season episode "The Enterprise Incident," for example, was vaguely suggested by what the news back then called "The Pueblo Incident," wherein an American naval vessel was captured by North Korea for spying in their waters. The crew was eventually released, but the ship itself is still there, on display for the crowds.*

At the time the episode was made, the producers were hot to capitalize on the premise's vague resemblance to what had just taken place. Audiences at the time would certainly have known about the Pueblo and possibly been curious as to how Star Trek would interpret the story.

I think that blog post you've cited, Colin, is probably accurate, although the inspiration may have taken the long way around. Flip Wilson had his own television show from 1970 to 1974. During that time, he may have donned a wetsuit and done a skit based on the Broadway production mentioned, and that was perhaps what Kirby saw when working on the next issue of Jimmy Olsen. I don't think it's likely he came up with Flippa earlier and held the character close to his vest to use later. He certainly seems to have been borne of the moment in 1970. 

I can't locate the account I read mentioning Flip Wilson's connection with the character, and who knows, I may be mis-remembering the whole thing, or the person giving telling the story may have had it wrong. But that is how I remember the story going. I scanned Mark Evanier's site for the story, but had no luck. I'm thinking I must have read it in an issue of Back Issue magazine at this point, and most of those are currently in my storage unit.

* I could absolutely see this year being the one in which the Pueblo is finally returned to the U.S. just before the election, in time for Trump to claim it as a victory achievable by no other American President in fifty years.


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Posted: 27 January 2020 at 7:13pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Can we just go ahead and make Dennis Rodman the U.S. ambassador to North Korea?

As for Kirby, I didn't know that about Flip Wilson. Don't believe I've ever seen that bit, or heard about the Cleavon Little play.
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