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Nathan Greno
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Question for JB, please —This was posted on Facebook...
I’m in the “it’s not an homage” camp, but I figure I’d ask you for the definitive answer.
Thank you!
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John Byrne
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Not a homage. In fact, this is the first time I’ve seen the Spider-Man cover.
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Eric Ladd
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I'm always amazed at how many fans assume comic artists and writers know of and recall all comic art and stories ever written. I have explained to more than one "fan" that artists and writers typically request back issues and comps when they take over on a book to maintain continuity. They don't read everything published each month even if a fan believes they must get all the books for free.
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Nathan Greno
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Thanks for the answer!
People confuse “similar composition” with “homage”. There’s only so many ways to lay out a page.
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Adam Schulman
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Mike Zeck inked by Bob McCleod. Even if one didn't like the story the artwork was really, really, really good.
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Koroush Ghazi
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Not close enough to the "original" to even be mistaken for a homage in the first place, in my opinion. Art does look great on both of them though, I've liked Mike Zeck's work since his Cap issues - but (sorry, Mike) JB's art is on a different level altogether!
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John Byrne
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I've liked Mike Zeck's work since his Cap issues - but (sorry, Mike) JB's art is on a different level altogether!•• Yes, a lower one.
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John Byrne
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There’s only so many ways to lay out a page. •• In recent years that has been some flurry of activity over plagiarism in historical books. Some of the accusations seemed incredibly petty, almost sentence by sentence. And as I commented when it started, there are only so many ways to say "Napoleon walked out onto the balcony."
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John Byrne
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Nitpick: Why didn't they put Kraven's gun in front of the logo??
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Michael Penn
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Is it not about as fundamentally true to everything
concerning Kraven the Hunter that any artist would
naturally depict him stalking an enemy...?!
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Rebecca Jansen
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I always feel bad for that old lion whose face and head got split to make a jacket for Mr. The Hunter... decades having to be a coat, how ignominious!
I think 'homage' should only apply to something like when it's definitely intended, like where all the elements of Amazing Fantasy #15 or FF #1 are there (though maybe a bit different, or with different characters). Why would someone homage/pay tribute to an average not particularly historic or iconic issue of Spider-Man anyway? I could see it if it were like say the cover of #33 or even #300. It's a great cover, well colored for a change too, but the fact that a lot of people haven't seen or noticed it would indicate it's not 'quotable' particularly.
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All of the covers from Kraven's Last Hunt are pretty iconic, I'd say. I see the two in which Spider-Man is most prominent (in the net and exiting the grave) are reproduced all the time.
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