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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 9:30am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Pretty measured essay...

...tho it does perpetuate the myth that DC offered me a "million dollars" to do Superman. No such luck. Did it for my page rate and whatever royalties might acrue (which were very nice, but nowhere near a million dollars).*

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*The books were still 75¢ in those days! On the 900,000 sales of MAN OF STEEL 1, royalties were paid after the first 100,000. Five percent divided between the writer, penciler and inker. 4% for me, in other words. So... a bit over $40,000 for that first issue.

Orders dropped, of course, after the first issue, so the book finally settled in at around 200,000. Still at 75¢. About what I was getting on FF, in other words.

Not chicken feed, by any means, but not the fantasy numbers some people love to conjure.

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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 11:19am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I have always wondered this. Was Next Men your most
lucrative book? I recall that book breaking sales records
for B&W comics. At the time, I imagined Dark Horse must
have bent over backwards to convince you to work with them
(although I know now money isn't always your main
consideration).
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 11:29am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

NEXT MEN did well for me because I own it.

It wasn’t B&W tho.

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Brennan Voboril
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 11:58am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I had to go check, and the Dark Horse Presents issues, with the Next Men, were published in black and white.  I had forgotten.  
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 1:10pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Do you think that’s what Wilson was asking about?
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Brennan Voboril
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I thought he might be talking about the first appearances of them.  
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 2:07pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Lucrative? Breaking sales? Hmmm........
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Not sure of where else I'd post this question, but they're currently using the MAN OF STEEL #1 cover for one of their Warner Brothers credit cards:


Does DC pay royalties for usage like that?
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 5:00pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I have no idea!
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Neil Lindholm
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Don't forget this. 

Ever think living in Canada back in the 70s that you would one day have a postage stamp with your work on it?
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

The USPS was quicker on the draw. They did a series of superhero stamps (15 years ago?) and for some odd reason chose a drawing of mine from AVENGERS WEST COAST to represent Iron Man.
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Allan Summerall
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Posted: 14 January 2020 at 4:47am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

This was a very nice article. Your work on the FF is what really got me hooked into reading comics and remains my favorite era of the title. 
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