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Scott Adsit
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Posted: 13 December 2019 at 10:56pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

So, because in the CW Multiverse, the Monitor, Earth 1, Earth 2, Earth X, Harbinger, etc., are all different from the Monitor, Earth 1, etc. of the comic books, they've established that in the infinite multiverse, there are multiple Earth 1's, multiple Anti-Monitors, and multiple Crises On Infinite Earths. The CW refers to Flash's world as Earth 1 when it obviously isn't. Earth 1 is where Barry Allen got turned into a puppet and Clark Kent worked as an anchorman on GBS. The CW should call Earth 1 "Earth CW1" or "Earth 2013" or whatever. Now they've established there are two Earth 1's (and therefore, an infinite number of Earth 1's), which kind of defeats the purpose of naming them,

This is the nerdiest thing I've ever written or read. Please throw erasers at my head.
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 14 December 2019 at 1:12am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Fine, you be crummy Universe "A", and we'll be Universe "1".
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Brian Hague
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Mark Waid's "Hypertime" concept allows for this and for every story ever written to be true somewhere, but really, it comes down to asking why the TV series would ever take their cues from the comics and acknowledge their "multiversal" structure first and then work around it. 

CW Barry: "Of course we aren't Earth-1. That's a separate Earth entirely and one that only exists in the comics! We'll call ourselves Earth-487-A, just to keep things simple!" 

And it doesn't help that at this point, the name "Earth-One" has been co-opted by DC for a line of "mature" themed re-imaginings of their heroes and "Earth-2" has been applied to both Grant Morrison's up-its-own-ass "re-imagining" of the Crime Syndicate AND the Nu52 gore-porn title and probably a few other Earths as well, all apart from whatever the CW is doing...

Relax into it, Scott. It's fun to talk like this.


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Steve Coates
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Posted: 14 December 2019 at 7:55am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

There are only  10,314,424,798,490,535,546,171,949,056 universes, shall we name them all?
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 14 December 2019 at 8:22am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

My head is going to explode in..3..2..1..
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 December 2019 at 8:53am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

As someone once said, it's fascinating to watch Hollywood make all the same mistakes the comics did, in less time and with more money.
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Mark Waid's "Hypertime" concept allows for this and for every story ever written to be true somewhere...

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Including, apparently, stories specifically labeled as “imaginary”, and which, in fact, depend on being such.

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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 14 December 2019 at 10:42am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Steve C. - that's impressive. There are only nine billion names of god.

If we allow for infinite earths - by definition - then we can have everything in one multiverse. I had hoped that there would be one or two Earth's with the animated worlds of DC*.

On a similar theme, there are the comic Earths, the TV and movie Earths**, the book Earths, the magazine Earths, etc. Is there truly a need to make them coordinate with each other? Especially when some are diametrically opposed to other Earths.

With no offense intended, I think too deep an analysis kind of defeats its own purpose. It's in there, it's in there.

*Impossible, of course. To start with, most of the voice actors from the Filmation cartoons are now in their own Valhallas.
**Which include the Superman movies represented by Brandon Routh, apparently. Kind of a shame that we couldn't get Gene Hackman or Robert Vaughan for this crossover...
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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 14 December 2019 at 3:04pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply


I don't follow DCTV like I didn't follow the comics as a kid, so this is all just
confusing to me. I will, however, accept even the most convoluted Marvel
timeline.

This thread has stuck with me, though - when I first saw the title, I thought it
sounded like the song "Tumblin' Tumbleweeds," and now when I see the thread
title the song gets stuck in my head, except with the lyrics..

"Driftin' along with the multiple Multiverses...."



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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 14 December 2019 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

In the comics, Hypertime has been redefined without anyone noticing. It's exactly like Marvel's WHAT IF? -- divergent timelines. This is different from the "brane" multiverse where the universes all get numbers from zero onward.

All the old "universes vibrating at different frequencies" stuff is still in effect at DC Comics. Also, now, there's a "Schrodinger's Cat" multiverse which they call Hypertime.  Presumably it applies to all the numbered universes.
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