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Vishwas Aragam
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Posted: 04 January 2020 at 10:09am | IP Logged | 1 post reply


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Then I'll hold off until after part 2 airs to go into
detail, but my theory is that its not a new one.


I wonder why people have this theory.


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Is it because of the way Dhawan plays the role? I feel
it would be a terrible reveal if it turned out this character
was a previous one.

Also, I would be disappointed if they cast an Indian actor in a
role on Doctor Who only for him to turn out to be one of the
previous actors in disguise.

When people bring up that the next Doctor should be played
by X or Y, I joke that the Doctor should be played by an
Indian, how else can I relate?

But I was surprised how happy and excited I was to have an
Indian actor play an iconic character, and I would be
extremely disappointed if that weren't the case.
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Posted: 04 January 2020 at 11:39am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

*sigh* Vishwas...


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What I mean by `Its not a new one' is not that its a version we've already seen, ie Simm, in disguise. But that its a past incarnation that we have not met yet. Possibly the one that becomes Professor Yana or even one before the decayed version we first saw in DEADLY ASSASSIN. The Master has not used the Tissue Comprssion Eliminator since pre-Simm, opting for a Laser Screwdriver instead.

A theory going around by others is that its an alternate universe version. The Yana theory is because Yana's DNA was overwritten by the Chameleon Arch and this storyline involves DNA being overwritten.

I think we'll eventually get a post-Missy incarnation, but don't believe this is it.

How to have a post-Missy incarnation without it being a total copout? Go watch "Time Crash": Ten and Five team up and Ten remembers how to do something from watching it from Five's point of view back when he was Five. If an incarnation between Simm and Missy (she did hint once that she might not be the incarnation right after him) or Missy herself remembered doing what the Simm version did, they could have taken precautions to make sure his attempt at killing her for good didn't work.

And I will be disappointed if it turns out to be a diguise, too. The actor is doing a hell of a job already, and seems to be an excellent choice. His smile is perfectly creepy and deranged, like a proper Master's should be.



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Vishwas Aragam
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*sigh* Vishwas...


Ok gotcha. Just saw the other theory going around online and didnít
understand why some people thought or desired that.

Donít feel I was accusing you of something, I didnít mean to come off
that way.
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Brian Floyd
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Oh, you didn't. I sighed because I felt the need to present my theory in response to your post, and I wanted to wait before doing so.
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It's kind of fascinating.  Last season was so stripped down and as free of traditional Doctor Who elements as possible.  This season, right from the jump, is full-on Classic Doctor Who.  This second episode, there were several moments where it became very clear to me that Whittaker was playing the same character I've been watching all these years.
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James Woodcock
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I enjoyed it, but my wife commented that she really doesn't like this manic version of the master (Simms onwards), and I found myself agreeing.

The Master shouldn't be running around cackling, he's a plotter, wheels within wheels villain. And I miss that version.

I do, however, continue to enjoy Whittaker as The Doctor.
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Jim Muir
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Yes I don't know why The Master (Nu-Who) now always has to be some insane, cackling scenery chewing pantomime villain - I too miss the scheming villainy of the 'real' Master.

I'm still not warming to Whittaker - which surprises me because she's a good actress in everything I've seen her in previously. I do think however, a lot of naysayers would have quietened had the previous season started on this footing. These two episodes already 'feel' more like Dr Who and have planted some interesting seeds.  
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Bill Collins
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"Pantomime villain" is exactly what i thought of the
"New" Master, he`s not in the least bit intimidating or
scary.
I could handle Simm, as a regeneration, and Missy was a
bit calmer, but the new one is a bit wishy washy.

Whittaker is ok, i just think she`s making the best of
pedestrian writing.

To be honest, would we be saying it was so good if we
took away the goodwill of the Bond pastiche?
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Posted: 07 January 2020 at 9:32am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

The Master shouldn't be running around cackling, he's a plotter, wheels within wheels villain. And I miss that version.
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I think maybe they're trying to riff on the Master as sort of a mirror-version of a particular Doctor.  That was pretty strongly implied in the regeneration scene into Simm.  Originally, the Master was very much a match to Pertwee.  Simm and Dhawan I think are meant to match the Tennant and Whittaker running about and mugging (which I don't mean as a knock).  Neither of their Doctors is very chill.  Missy likewise seemed to match Capaldi's more staid demeanor.
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"Orphan 55" felt like four or five separate Doctor Who plots mashed together,
and it didn't do any of them very well. The Doctor's preachy speech in the end
about taking care of the planet might have worked if it had been in a better
episode.
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That`s my problem with the Chibnall era, i don`t mind
the preachiness, it`s always been in Doctor Who to a
certain extent, but Chibnall era it`s a subtle as a
sledgehammer. The dog/cat woman whatever it was, was
just awful too, reminiscent of the cheap 70`s/80`s
stuff.
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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 9:43am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

My wife and I have been on the exact same page with this series.

Our first comments were 'This looks like the Bertie Bassett episode' I went to bed around half way through.
Disappointing 
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