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Tim O Neill
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WATCHMEN won a Peabody Award:

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If you haven't seen it, it is well worth your time. It addresses racism in a
bracing and honest way, and it has been top of mind for me since the uprising
and protests began.

And they were way ahead of all of us on masks!







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And it's out on disc now if anyone is interested.
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Well, the show informed me of the Tulsa Massacre, which I was totally ignorant of. Other than that, couldn't say much for it. 
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I loved this series. It was in your face in a good way & managed to
really cover the real (racism) with the fantastic- it didnít run from Dr.
Manhattan or any of the other characters from the comic.

A way better sequel than Doomsday Clock, & I love Gary Frank as an
artist, Watchmenís ending was streets better than DCís.
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Reading this thread prompted me to watch all nine episodes yesterday.

As is so often the case, TPTB got some things right, and some things wrong.

I enjoyed watching every scene with Lady Trieu, her daughter/mother, and Louis Gossett, Jr. I also appreciated the realism of Hooded Justice's fights.

I really disliked the decision to make Ozymandias a joke, and even at Veidt's advanced age, Looking Glass shouldn't have been able to just take him out with a wrench.
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Overall I thought the show worked as a stylish and compelling contemporary extrapolation of the source material. As a sequel it kind of tanked; not only was there not enough substance in the original to merit this kind of continuation, so many details were altered or possibly misunderstood the narrative becomes incoherent when taken as a whole. (If I understood correctly, over the course of the comic and show, Hooded Justice has now been successively revealed to be a Nazi sympathizer, probably dead, a closeted gay, definitely alive, 100 years old, and African American.)

My biggest issue was ultimately with the Dr. Manhattan stuff, which resolved the character's issues from the comic by entirely changing his personality and motivations. And the way he kept repeating "I don't experience time like you do" on the show was a far less elegant and interesting use of its medium than how Gibbons and Moore portrayed his perceptions in the comics.
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The TV series made me appreciate the original book more, which I have liked
since I read it, but it's not a top favorite. I can safely say I enjoyed the TV
series more, but that has something to do with it being new and fresh.

I also liked some of the BEFORE WATCHEMEN books - this is proving to be a
universe that has legs to it, as long as it's in capable creative hands.


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Tried it, wanted to like it, but found it suffers from the same tone-problem I had with the book. It's just not my flavor.

I love that people are finding awareness of the Tulsa massacre through it, though. I wish I was in for the rest of the ride.
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Binged on Hulu Sunday-Monday.  It really worked for me, although I regret having spoiled a couple of plot points for myself when it first aired last year.  Interesting how it was able to stay more true to Moore's perspective by digging into its themes than Snyder's adaptation. Snyder followed the plot slavishly but somehow, either through style or emphasis, managed to miss pretty much every single thematic point Moore was trying to make and ended up with something empty.

The 'where are they now' aspects of Ozymandius and Silk Spectre both worked for me incredibly well - easy enough to believe that Veidt would become complacent in the thirty-five years since the end of the original. It's a logical extrapolation of a guy who builds monuments to himself. And I liked the wrench noggin aspect of his takedown by Looking Glass, since it let Tim Blake Nelson complete his arc elegantly.

A thematically tight show with some deeply emotional beats and a metric ton on its mind that never stinted on the fantastical elements and didn't treat them as satirical but instead wove them into the clockspring plot and thematic explorations perfectly.  This may be the first thing that Damon Lindelof has made that I really dug (although I hear good things about Leftovers, which I may make an effort to check out, now).
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