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Shawn Kane
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Even with their last album, I still consider the current lineup of Kiss a cover band if for no other reason than Tommy Thayer is posing as Ace Frehley and Eric Singer is posing as Peter Criss. They're basically half of the same thing that I can see at a local club.
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But they get paid a lot more. 
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The current version of Foreigner is definitely a cover band, due to Mick Jones being the only `real' member.

Journey and Styx are cover bands because Perry and DeYoung are so critical to their successes. Plus, Journey bombed without Perry.

Its hard for me to consider Lynyrd Skynyrd to be a cover band, due to the circumstances. I consider them more of a `legacy' band than anything. 

I like Van Halen with DLR or Hagar on vocals. But I prefer DLR slightly more. 

Kamelot is great with Roy Khan or Tommy Karevik, but of the two I prefer Khan.

ACDC is great whether its Bon or Brian on vocals. No preference for either, but I do like Bon's version of "Highway To Hell" over Brian's.

Love the Beach Boys, but with two of the Wilson brothers dead and Brian long out of the band due to his mental issues and a solo artist now, they're a cover band. Even if Mike Love is still involved.

Guns N Roses was The Axl Rose Band when Axl was the only original member in it. Then again, Velvet Revolver was more or less Guns N Stone Temples!

(For the record, my 3 favorite Styx songs are in no particular order Grand Illusion, Mr. Roboto and Renegade. With Journey, its too hard to pick a top 3 or even top 5, but Separate Ways (Worlds Apart) is my set in stone #1.)

The two vocalist changes I thought were HUGE mistakes, and was proven right: Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. Maiden with Blaze Bayley and Priest with Tim `Ripper' Owens both stunk. (Owens is a fine vocalist, but I am not a fan at all of his work with JP or Iced Earth.)

Not a fan of Drowning Pool's current singer, either. 

I could keep going on and on, but I'll end with this: I'm waiting for Mushroomhead to release a new album since Jeffrey Nothing quit. There are some clips of live perfomances with their new singer on Youtube, but its hard to judge by those. 




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Brian, i totally agree with you about Priest and Maiden.
I read that Michael Kiske of Heloween was considered for
Maiden, but they decided against someone who sounded
similar to Bruce. I don`t think he sounds like Bruce
that much (More like Geoff Tate)But i do think he could
have song the Dickinson/DiAnno songs better live. I saw
them live with Blaze and he struggled with many of the
songs, being out of his range. Even Bruce struggles with
some!
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With Journey, its too hard to pick a top 3 or even top 5, but Separate Ways (Worlds Apart) is my set in stone #1.)

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I go back and forth between it and Stone in Love.  Both fantastic tracks. 
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Stone in Love is my favorite but I have a soft spot for Any Way You Want It thanks to Caddyshack. 

I think Journey's induction into the Hall was perfect: Perry, Schon, Vallory, Rollie, Dunbar, Smith, and Cain. All important to the band's long term success.

Bill,
I could hear the similarities with Kiske when he'd hit his high notes with Helloween but I agree that he doesn't sound like Dickinson. Geoff Tate is a comparison that I'd never considered though. Good call because now I totally hear it!

Brian, 
I consider Chinese Democracy an Axl Rose solo project myself. 


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Tommy Thayer is posing as Ace Frehley and Eric Singer is posing as Peter Criss. They're basically half of the same thing that I can see at a local club.

But what about the other half?

Granted, if you listen to their vocals now versus 30+ years ago, you could argue Gene and Paul sound like members of a KISS cover band. There's something unique to both, still, but much different from the original make-up era (or even early post-make-up). 

But still, it's half of the original band; the half that has contributed most since the beginning. Are current KISS tours just a tribute to what went before? Maybe. But a really convincing tribute with a really BIG budget!

I've seen a couple of actual KISS tribute bands, and I never thought, "Yeah, that's the stuff!" as I have at KISS concerts over the last twenty-odd years. 
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I have one time. It was actually before the reunion. A band called Hotter Than Hell. They did a damn perfect mix of makeup era songs and the stage show/ costuming was circa 74-75. Before all the really big stuff started happening. The Paul guy sounded remarkably like Paul and the Gene LOOKED eerily like Gene from that era. Other than leaving out a couple of tunes I wanted to hear, it was a perfect KISS show. Without KISS, of course. 

And don't forget, Tommy was actually in a KISS tribute band before being hired on by the band in the late 80s-early 90s. 
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I like Van Halen with DLR or Hagar on vocals. But I prefer DLR slightly more. 

Same. I like Sammy's solo stuff more than DLR's, though. 

And the less said about the "Gary Sherone Incident", the better. 
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Van Halen with DLR is my all-time favorite band. I like the Sammy stuff just fine because I loved Sammy's solo and Montrose stuff. Van Halen III is not a good Van Halen album but I think it's a pretty good rock album.


I've seen a couple of actual KISS tribute bands, and I never thought, "Yeah, that's the stuff!" as I have at KISS concerts over the last twenty-odd years. 

Locally, I've seen a group called God of Thunder. Those guys are dedicated but don't quite scratch the itch.
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DLR's solo stuff was good for mainly one reason: Steve Vai on guitar. Yankee Rose is the only DLR song I actually like, aside from his covers of California Girls and Just A Gigolo/

I try to forget Gary Sherone even happened. Loved Extreme, but he was not a good fit with Van Halen.


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On a related note regarding Iron Maiden and Bruce`s
vocals.
It seems to me that Steve Harris wrote fast songs with a
lot of words per verse, making it neccessary for Bruce
to sing really fast, in the studio it worked, but live
you need to be able to enunciate the words AND breathe!
You can hear Bruce struggle a lot live, and they tend to
stack songs like Aces High at the start of the show!
Shawn Kane, glad you liked my Kiske/Tate comparison!
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