I genuinely enjoyed Nolan's THE DARK KNIGHT the first time I saw it for the level of seriousness everyone brought to the game. They were legitimately making a Batman film with the same gravity and tone they would if they were doing a SEVEN or SILENCE OF THE LAMBS. The result... is mixed. I recently read someone either here or on FB describing it as TROLLEY PROBLEM: THE MOTION PICTURE, which I found hilarious. The script makes only about as much sense as any other Batman film. The Joker had so many back-ups to his back-up plans he may as well have outfitted penguins with rockets.
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Overall, I like the tone of it, but the film itself...? I have not gone back to watch it again. Part of that is because the Joker in that film is a credible film bad guy of the over-the-top variety so popular among psychos these days, but otherwise, is unlikable and only as clever as the film tells us he is, because he himself has little to offer by way of evidence. I get the sense that he is walking into the scene and asking for a script, reading from it, and then going for it in some actor-y sort of deliberately interesting way of saying those lines rather than, you know, being in the scene, responding to events, or making things happen. He always seems to be wandering in from the make-up trailer.
So... my favorites? That is a bit challenging. I'm not a Joker fan, so none of them have that "Wow!" factor of seeing my guy up there on the screen.
Nicholson's is memorable and nearly iconic so many years hence. He's a lot of fun to watch, even as the movie itself is a paper-thin confection he's soft-shoeing his way through. It's a fun character if not exactly the Joker.
I was just talking with a friend about the many other candidates cited at the time as possible, more age-appropriate Jokers (Willem Dafoe, Danny Elfman, my pick Jere Burns, et al) and saying that had they passed up a chance to get Nicholson for the part, all we would have been hearing from fandom since was how impossibly amazing and perfect he would have been and how could they have been so stupid stupid stupid as to let that get away from them?
I think Nicholson did well and had a grand time of it, letting all of us in on the fun as well.
So, he's probably my top pick. Mark Hamill's would be my second, because while I enjoyed that one more on a more consistent basis, he's still doing "less" not appearing onscreen himself. It's lame and voice actors may hate me for it saying it, but really, acting in blue jeans and whatever t-shirt you threw on this morning is not as demanding overall as learning the blocking, sitting in make-up, enduring costume tests, and then going out there and doing it. I love Mark Hamill's Joker, but I saw Nicholson do the part, and I've not seen Hamill do it. I did see his Trickster on the Flash and I'm still sticking with Nicholson as my first choice.*
I enjoy Caesar Romero in the part a great deal. He's a hoot. Definitely would be my top pick if not for the other two.
Filmation's animated Joker from both the Sixties show and the late-70's revamp with Bat-Mite was almost exactly the character from the comics of my childhood. If the cartoons themselves had been better, I'd be rating that version higher. And really, having seen some recently, they're not as bad as you might remember. A couple were actually good.
I don't specifically recall seeing the Joker on BRAVE AND THE BOLD but I like the old-school character design they have for him. I haven't seen as much of that show as I'd like to. I bought them all at one point and then gave them to a friend as a gift. Maybe the next time I'm over at his place, we can watch some.
I didn't see Jared Leto in SUICIDE SQUAD. Why go to a bad movie? I do get that there's a sense of obligation related to these films just so, as a fan, I can discuss the interpretations and weigh in on various conversations, but it doesn't move me enough to put myself through the chore of watching some of these things. I also haven't seen JUSTICE LEAGUE, most of AGENTS OF SHIELD, or pretty much any of the CW shows. I'd rather enjoy myself when I watch something than have to do homework.
* I also saw him as the Divine Rod on SON OF THE BEACH, and he's lucky I'm not knocking him to third based on that.
Edited by Brian Hague on 03 October 2019 at 2:06am