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Brian Miller
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Wow. Nice peace deal. Syria refuses it. It gives Turkey everything it wants and tells them it’s ok to exterminate the Kurds and removes all sanctions against Turkey. He’s the best goddamn dealmaker in the world, remember.
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Charles Valderrama
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Trump once more claims "victory" for something he started. *sigh*
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Jason Czeskleba
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We've had three years now of hyperbolic comparisons of Trump to Hitler. It is becoming clear it would be more apt to compare him to Neville Chamberlain.
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Kevin Brown
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| Posted: 18 October 2019 at 6:12am | IP Logged | 4
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Not even close, Jason.
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Ronald Joseph
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We've had three years now of hyperbolic comparisons of Trump to Hitler.
Hyperbolic implies exaggeration. I see none. He's been reading right out of ol' Adolph's playbook for a while now.
However, I do prefer to view him more like Hitler crossed with Emperor Tod Spengo from Mom and Dad Save the World.
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James Woodcock
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Trump = Hitler in the early 1030’s. whether he gets to 1939 to 1945 status remains to be seen.
But he’s definitely @ early 1930’s stage
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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 18 October 2019 at 10:41am | IP Logged | 7
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Nah, Mussolini.
That press 'thing' yesterday with the awarding the 2020 G7 conference site to a Trump resort and the 'get over it' line about the Ukraine business was surreal... if Trumpo had said it himself though it would've worked apparently, but someone else can't say that... ooookay. To quote Fishbone, "Hey Ma and Pa, what the hell is wrong with y'all?" And those are real people at these 'rallies'? I mean I know along with positioning women and visible minorities behind the orange one that a lot of people were paid early on, so are they back to paying for these people again at this point?
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 18 October 2019 at 10:44am
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Kevin Brown
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whether he gets to 1939 to 1945 status remains to be seen.
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We're at concentration camps for kids. So he's a bit further along than you think. (So far, as far as we know, he hasn't order the extermination of those kids though.)
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 18 October 2019 at 1:52pm | IP Logged | 9
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No. Just the Kurds.
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Brian Miller
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https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/get-over-it-tee-navy
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Jason Czeskleba
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James Woodcock wrote:
Trump = Hitler in the early 1930’s. whether he gets to 1939 to 1945 status remains to be seen.
But he’s definitely @ early 1930’s stage |
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By "early 30s" you must mean prior to 1933, because in March 1933 Hitler engineered the passage of the Enabling Act, which made him dictator (taking away all powers from the legislative branch of German government). That same year he banned trade unions and strikes and began jailing and killing political opponents.
Trump is a demagogue, and so was Hitler in the years before he became a genocidal dictator. But comparing him to Hitler is hyperbole... most demagogues do not manage to become genocidal dictators. Trump is a despicable person who has done some terrible things, and that is enough. Likening him to Hitler is excessive, and minimizes the atrocity of Hitler's actions.
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Koroush Ghazi
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Jason Czeskleba wrote:
| Likening him to Hitler is excessive, and minimizes the atrocity of Hitler's actions. |
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Not at all. It quite rightly points out the dangers of demagogues, and the need to always keep them in check. Make no mistake, if Trump could achieve total control of the US the way Hitler did of Germany, he would for much the same reasons, likely end up killing millions. Trump exhibits virtually all the characteristics of a 1930s fascist strongman. Genocidal dictators don't suddenly appear out of nowhere, they're enabled through our (in)actions.
Evoking Hitler is one way of ensuring history never repeats, and that far outweighs any danger of minimizing Hitler's atrocities.
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