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Bill Collins
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| Posted: 04 August 2019 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | 1
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I`ve seen some coverage on BBC news, it looks
terrifying, obviously we are not told of the atrocious
treatment of females that you mentioned. It was also
claimed that Triad gangs are working on behalf of the
authorities. Stay safe Didier.
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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| Posted: 11 August 2019 at 9:14pm | IP Logged | 2
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Things took a much further darker tone this week-end.A
young female nurse lost an eye, some others were
beaten badly.
I would usually be on the side of the law. But after
several events I have seen since the beginning, I am
more and more convinced the police is getting out of
control. They have lost even more credibility with the
general public.
They gazed a metro station, no matter there were
commuters or metro staff. Tear gas bullets are
supposed to be used outdoor only.
They shot rubber bullets at close range. And the more
troublesome part is there are growing proof that they
are in shady waters with triads from China and local
gangs.My family and I still have an option of leaving
the country if the situation was really going to the
worst we can thing of.We are not preparing for it, as
we hope the situation can improve. But it is crossing
our mind.
Edited by Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle on 12 August 2019 at 1:08am
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Bill Collins
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| Posted: 11 August 2019 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | 3
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Didier, the BBC is regularly reporting on this, it`s
truly shocking. If i was you, i would prepare to leave
at a moment`s notice, even if eventually, you don`t need
to.
Is this getting news coverage in the U.S. and other
countries that has forum members?
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Joe Zhang
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| Posted: 12 August 2019 at 12:10am | IP Logged | 4
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The HK government wants to shut down the protests as soon as possible, utilizing increasing levels of violence. But the protesters have a very broad base of support among Hong Kongers. This might go on for months and months. Some people may have been put off by violence exhibited by the protesters themselves, but most have looked the other way.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 12 August 2019 at 12:25am
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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There are some video proofs of police officers being in
disguise as protesters and trying to stir up things in
the wrong directions in order to alter the perception
the public has on the protesters.
This is backfiring at them big time.
Right now, there are strikes and protests in 2 big
hospitals and a huge crowd protesting at the airport,
chanting " Don't trust Hong Kong Police".
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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Also, Joe, it seems that Xi Jin Ping has asked Carrie
Lam ( the chief executive officer of HK ) to take care
of the business before September, which will be the 70th
anniversary of the People republic of China.
Some say that is also because there are some additional
feuds with some political clans within the Party. And
Hong Kong is just the stage.
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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As tensions mount and there are more news coverage,
few people from afar ( US and France mainly ) have
recently reached me regarding the Chinese Army at the
Shenzhen border ( 10 minutes from the border / 1 hour
from Central Hong Kong by road).
It is a bit worrisome but not unusual.
On one hand, they just want to show their muscles. But
some other reasons could be the preparation for the
coming 70th People Republic of China Anniversary
parade.
There are no doubt the Chinese leader would like to do
a Tiananmen 2.0. But the consequences on an
International level would be disastrous for everybody,
including China.
This said, I received a friendly reminder from the
French Consulate to make sure I am really registered
on their lists.
So, yes, I am bracing myself for another intense week-
end.
But apart from that, this is business as usual in the
streets.
My family and I are OK at the moment.
Thank you.
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Mark McKay
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I have family in Hong Kong and we’re worried for them. What is the general safety level for foreign nationals working there?
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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Mark, it really depends where they are living. But
generally, I would say pretty safe.
Again, apart some isolated areas who can become
sensitive at time and for a relatively short periods
of time, it is business as usual.
I am pretty sure your relatives' Consulate must keep
them informed and updated.
And I really want to emphasize that most of the chaos
is provoked by the police who is igniting the
conflicts and do unreasonable actions. Latest example
is they marched yesterday night in the Sham Shui Po
area crowded streets, busy with small local
restaurants and they shot tear gases at nothing and
for no reason! It's a residential area full of old
people who just want to mind their own business.
Most of the protesters are young, caring and educated
people who really count on the support of the general
population, which is something the HK government is
trying to curb.
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Rebecca Jansen
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Saw that Trump was actually praising Xi Jinping yesterday, lot of help he is to people wanting freedom or democracy...
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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It was back to schools for the kids here in Hong Kong
on Monday.
As I wrote somewhere else on the net, I used to live
in a peaceful city. You could walk alone at night with
plenty of valuables in your pockets without being
scared to be attacked by thugs.
Now I am living in the same city, only I am scared for
the kids on their way to school every morning, like my
son, to be attacked by police officers... You know the
ones who are supposed to serve and protect with care
the citizens, the same ones who were scared that their
own kids might be bullied at school because they are
part of the police force.
Because, unfortunately, it happened.
This is on top of the police denying first aid access
to injured protesters in another train station they
"cleared".
In a leaked audio recording with some top officials
and top businessmen in the city, the chief executive
clearly displayed both her incompetency and
limitations to handle the crisis.
Now, I don't want to sound too gloomy. The situation
is really chaotic at times and back to normal at other
ones.
For example, we went to Hong Kong Disneyland on
Sunday, hoping to evade all this crisis.
The plus, it was not overcrowded, which make it great
to experience the attractions with minimum of waiting
time.
The minus... well, we got a Typhoon signal 3 in the
evening, blocking all the outdoors attractions.
But furthermore, we got a taste of reality slapping us
straight in the face when all the possible ways to go
back home ( trains, buses and even taxis ) went to a
halt when the metro decided to close and the buses
stopped their services because of the protests in
various parts of the city.
We managed to go back home, very late.
Several kind people, some even on this forum, have
contacted me to propose their help with care packages
and such.
I want to Thank you very much for your kindness. At
the moment, we are not in such a situation of need.
But if you want to help, please contact your
governors, your politicians, ask them to try to push
for more international pressure on China.
Maybe this can help.
Thank you very much.
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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Just a quick note to update you all.
My little family and I are still safe. The situation
is changing faster and faster now, since the new law
banning the usage of facial masks.
We live in the North of the New Territories and since
Friday, the metro station is closed due to vandalism.
On Saturday, ALL the metro stations were closed, as
well as banks and several supermarket chain shops.
But the troubles and clashes with the police force who
is out of control and common sense are now widespread
across the whole territory and they are hitting closer
and closer.
On yesterday night, we came back from seeing a movie
in the cinema inside our nearby shopping mall. To go
home, we need to use a little bridge. When we arrive
at the exit of the mall for that bridge, some people
were yelling at the doors, the shopping mall security
guards were stopping people from coming closer, while
also stopping someone from entering the private place.
At a quick glance, I saw the bridge was full of riot
police officers in their black attire and full combat
mode.
We took a detour to go back home.
Meanwhile, the police forced itself inside the mall
and caught someone.
As we are unfortunate to live just next to the police
station, we witnessed later on a swarm of protesters
asking for the release on the person in front of the
building.
The protesters had also blocked lanes of the roads. At
one point, an ambulance arrived, the protesters rushed
to free the lane for the ambulance, and at that
precise moment, from the police tower balcony, they
shot some tear gas just in front of the ambulance and
the protesters !
I have no clue were it can go from there, for the
moment we are still not considering to leave the
country, but it has been raised a couple of time in my
wife and I discussions.
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