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John Byrne
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Posted: 28 May 2019 at 8:58am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Didn’t they use that in the one year with the GoT girl?
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Posted: 28 May 2019 at 9:39am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I'm not sure. History's been changed so much I can't clearly recall anything about Genisys.

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 Byron Graham wrote:
Kyle Reese gave a good explanation in the first film. Terminators are infiltration units. "They look human — sweat, bad breath, everything." Aging would come in just as handy as bad breath when passing for human.


The obvious answer is that Terminators age because Arnie has aged, QED.

But just for fun, let's overthink it a bit: I can't imagine a Terminator infiltrating a group of humans long enough to visibly age (several years without being detected by a stray dog or close human friends?).

Not to mention, if the machines are advanced enough to create controlled cellular degeneration, why wouldn't they also do the opposite (i.e., healing), which is arguably far more useful for infiltration? In the first two Terminator movies, the T800 just removes damaged flesh and organs, which hardly aids his mission as an infiltration unit.

I suppose the best we can say is that Terminators are created in all different appearances, and that includes various states of aging.

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At least we are not being subjected to Arnold being "youthified" via CGI--tho on a Terminator that waxwork effect might be appropriate.
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I think it would have been far more interesting if they made Arnold the villain again* .

*Still can't believe that the heel turn in T2 was completely spoiled by the press junket and commercials prior to release. I told one of my younger coworkers that loves T2 (he was 3 years old in '91) that the movie is actually constructed for that to be a surprise if you pay attention and try to watch it blind. He was flabbergasted.
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Zero interest.



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We’ve lived in a world with more bad TERMINATOR movies than good ones for awhile, already (whereas there used to be only two GOOD films), but they just keep trying. And failing. And trying. And failing.

RISE OF THE MACHINES was the first chapter in a trilogy which never happened. SALVATION was the first chapter in a trilogy which never happened. GENISYS was the first chapter in a trilogy which never happened. And this new movie will probably be the first chapter in a trilogy which will never happen. From the early info and plot leaks, this has “trainwreck” written all over it. Yet another counterfeit sequel which is trying to sneak in the door by saying that the other counterfeit sequels don’t count.

Cameron’s involvement means nothing to me, since he was more than happy to shill for GENISYS, a few years back. He made two great films, and it should have ended there. Even the beloved T2 was stretching credibility by continuing the story. Everything else since then falls into the “unnecessary reboot/remake/rehash” camp, and is ridiculously easy to ignore.


Please let it end. Please stop. It’s already dead!
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The last remotely interesting TERMINATOR thing IMO was SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES, and that really wasn't all that great.   Ended on a cliffhanger, too.
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I'm sorry, Tim Miller...what did you say?

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/tim-miller-terminator-dark -fate-scares-internet-trolls-1202156922/


Well, all I can say is, "Get woke, go broke.".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/11/02/box-o ffice-james-cameron-and-tim-millers-terminator-dark-fate-sta rring-linda-hamilton-and-arnold-schwarzenegger-bombs-with-ap ocalyptic-11-million-friday/#6841dde25a3e



Such is the fate of these films which continue to pillage and disgrace our genre-film heritage for the sake of identity politics and name-brand-recognition cash-grabs. You're terminated, ****er.
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I didn't like the movie, but I don't see any reason to be an obnoxious douchebag about it. We get it, you hate and fear women and people of color.

Personally, I'm for more woke entertainment. Dark Fate blew it by hiring white guys to opportunistically pay lip service to diversity instead of actually hiring women or people of color to write or direct. And by being a shitty, tedious movie.
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Never mind the boring trailer, the diminishing returns of the Terminator franchise, the multiple broken promises of the latest movie returning to “the roots of the franchise”. Never mind that a female Terminator has been done before. Never mind that a good female Terminator has been done before. Never mind that trying to bring back Arnold has down before. All to middling to lackluster results. Never mind that action movies that don’t star a DC or Marvel character are a hard sell these days. 

It’s obviously the brown people that ruined the movie. I’m now convinced. 
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Dark Fate blew it by hiring white guys to opportunistically pay lip service to diversity instead of actually hiring women or people of color to write or direct.

If they hired specifically for skin pigmentation or gender, the film would have been good? Why would that matter? Terminator 2 was written by two white guys, and directed by one. Is it a bad film because the writing staff didn't reflect the protagonist's gender?

I have not seen the movie or followed anything about it, but the main protagonist in the first three films were women and nobody cared. What changed in this new movie? 
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