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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 April 2019 at 9:10pm | IP Logged | 1
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I watched a tv show with a dialect coach when I was a kid, and took Radio Broadcasting in high school.
The dialect coach talked about how to do a southern accent and was mostly right, though her accent she used when demonstrating still sounded a bit fake. It was or less half-pronouncing the letter i in words, and dropping the letter g off the end of words. What she didn't get right is that we also talk a bit slower than others, due to being more laid back.
In Radio Broadcasting, we were taught how to speak `General American'. I haven't used that knowledge much since I graduated 30 years ago (literally. Class of 1989), because its a royal pain to do. I actually have to speak about 20% slower when doing so. (Basically, pronouncing i fully, not dropping the g off words, over-enunciating and better diction, but there's more to it than that.)
As for the not pronouncing the letter i, there's no really way to spell it out in written form, but its true. Marvel had Cannonball, who is supposed to be from Kentucky, say `Ah' in place of `I' when talking about himself, but that's not correct. He sounds like he has a speech impediment more than a southern accent! I shudder to hear how he'll sound in that New Mutants movie.....
Edited by Brian Floyd on 25 April 2019 at 9:15pm
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John Byrne
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Posted: 25 April 2019 at 9:18pm | IP Logged | 2
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One thing I noticed when working on ALPHA FLIGHT was how many Americans seemed not to understand Puck’s “eh”. Rather than reading it as if pronounced “ay”, they took it more as rhyming with “meh”.(Curiously, in the outtakes at the end of OFFICE CHRISTMAS PARTY one of the actors does the same when adding a supposedly Canadian “eh” to the end of a sentence. Have Doug and Bob been forgotten?)
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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 April 2019 at 9:25pm | IP Logged | 3
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Some of us realized how to pronounce it to due those great Canadian tv characters you just mentioned. Loved SCTV.
Sadly, I've never seen the Bob & Doug animated show that was done about 10 years ago. But with Dave Coulier substituing for Rick Moranis, I'm not sure I want to......
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Location: England Posts: 11249
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Posted: 25 April 2019 at 10:08pm | IP Logged | 4
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I live just outside Birmingham, England, i have a Black Country accent, there is a definite,but slight difference. I work 7 miles north of my home, and there is a definite difference in the accents of my work colleagues, much more different than Birmingham vs Black Country! In the U.K. we have many different accents, and to a Brit it`s easy to tell. Maybe less so, than to an American.I remember an MTV/VH1 Def Leppard docu-drama, bearing in mind that most of the band at the time were from Sheffield, the accents of the actors, were more "Cockney" which was quite jarring to a Brit!
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 16430
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Posted: 26 April 2019 at 1:54am | IP Logged | 5
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Speaking of accents, here's a funny scene (starting at the 1:30 mark in the video clip) where Alan Partridge (Steve Coogan) tries to understand his friend Michael's Geordie accent:
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Leigh DJ Hunt Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 April 2019 at 4:16am | IP Logged | 6
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Afraid I still hear Puck's "eh" wrong. I don't think I've ever heard a Canadian say it! Unless, is it like that vocal tic that people in Fargo (film and tv show) use?
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Andrew Saxon Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 June 2016 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 337
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Posted: 26 April 2019 at 5:34am | IP Logged | 7
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I'm used to English actors being cast as villains in American TV shows and movies but, I must confess, it always annoys me when they use Australian actors to portray English characters (still villains). That's just insult to injury. Americans might not be able to tell the difference but when these things get shown over here it is rather grating (and don't even get me started on the 'British teeth' thing - for goodness sake, it's no longer the 1940s over here in the UK...British dentistry is every bit as good as yours, I promise you!).
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Trevor Thompson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 April 2019 at 5:59am | IP Logged | 8
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Anyone from New York, here? I've heard that the accents change from borough to borough so, for instance, someone from Brooklyn could tell another person is from the Bronx?
I wlll admit that I can definitely tell when some one is from the East End but not necessarily from North, South or West London.
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Ed Aycock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1004
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Posted: 26 April 2019 at 6:05am | IP Logged | 9
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In the US, we also get a lot of British actors cast as Americans and it can be easy to tell. There are a few actors who are seamless but a lot of British actors hit that American "r" farrr too harrrd.
Also easy to tell Canadian actors - especially since about 99% of the Hallmark TV movies are filmed and cast there and everybody goes "aboot" their business.
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Trevor Thompson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 April 2019 at 6:15am | IP Logged | 10
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The only time I can tell Canadian accents is when I hear aboot, eh, or hoose instead of house.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 26 April 2019 at 6:40am | IP Logged | 11
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It’s actually closer to “aboat”.
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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 April 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1890
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Posted: 26 April 2019 at 8:06am | IP Logged | 12
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I have heard that Canadian actors who want to make the jump into American TV and movies have to attend a day long dialect course to get their pronounciation corrected for about two dozen key words that would give them away as Canucks.
Strangely, for a country as massive as Canada, among English speakers, I am only aware of the Newfoundland accent. Everybody else seems to speak English coast to coast with the same accent. There are exceptions for people whose native tongue is French or First Nations, but otherwise we are pretty homogeneous. But please correct me if you can think of another Canadian English accent.
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