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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 23 April 2019 at 9:25am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

We all know that a lot of non-comic book originated properties have been brought in... Star Trek, Star Wars, Tarzan, etc. Gold Key/Western Publishing certainly did its share of it during the 60s.

Let's fast forward to today. I've a question and a proposition.

PROPOSITION: What non-comic book property, old or new, would you like to see brought into comics? Please note that I am not specifying that it be done by Mr. Byrne (although who would say no to such a property?) The only restriction is that you leave out the most popular properties that have already hit the comic market (e.g., those noted below - Star Trek or Star Wars.)

The difference is that, as noted, Gold Key brought a LOT of properties into one or two issue series. If you're a fan of "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" or "Gilligan's Island", bring 'em up. Even though they did have their extremely short runs, those are fine.

For myself, I think it's low hanging fruit - but I'd love a treatment of "The Orville." I would want Mr. McFarlane involved, even if he's not writing every (or any) issue.

QUESTION: What property has had the most different publishers? I know that Tarzan has been around, as has Star Trek, but I'm not sure which has been offered by the most different publishers. I suspect it's Star Trek, but I'd love to see discussion on this topic.
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Posted: 23 April 2019 at 9:39am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

About properties that have had the most publishers: Good question! I suspect it is likely Tarzan of Star Trek, as you mention. Dracula in various forms has been published by many companies, too.

As for what non-comic book property I'd want to see adapted to comics... I think most of what I would want to see has been adapted at one point or another. Still, I just thought of one that might be interesting: "The Goonies." There's several fun adventures the kids could get wrapped up in for a regular series.

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Posted: 23 April 2019 at 9:48am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

If a property has *only* had a movie adaptation done,
never any original stories/series, is it still hands-
off? Nothing in mind yet, just a wrinkle that occurred
to me.
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Posted: 23 April 2019 at 10:56am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Trevor, I figure that something that has already had a long treatment, or a number of treatments, is probably hands off; so, as noted, if you were to suggest Star Wars, I'd say that was kinda redundant.

If you were to select something less handled, that'd be fine; as noted, there've been a LOT of properties that were pretty short runs.

So if you liked Disney's "Atlantis" or "I, Frankenstein", go for it. But go ahead and mention what you like. I'm easy. I make single digit addition look difficult. ;)
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Posted: 23 April 2019 at 11:17am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I'd like another IDW Godzilla series. Drawn by Matt Frank, because that's his area of expertise.
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Posted: 23 April 2019 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Goonies!, that's a goodin' Matt!

I'm thinking Flash Gordon has probably been around the block with a few publishers.
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Posted: 23 April 2019 at 7:41pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

My answer to both is DOC SAVAGE!

He's been published by Marvel, DC, numerous small publishers, Golden Age publishers...but he's never really been done right!

Well, I was just given the SHOWCASE PRESENTS edition (that I didn't even know existed) for my birthday, where DC reprints the entire 8-issue run of the B&W magazine Marvel produced in the 70's (which I knew existed but never saw).  I see that John Buscema did the first issue (which seems just about perfect!), inked by Tony DeZuniga, who did the full art on most of the rest (and he's not bad himself).

Such a classic and important character--you'd think there would be long runs done by top talent--like Neal Adams (who did ONE pin-up in my volume).  Rich Buckler would have been perfect too, but he only did a couple of covers of the color comic (though apparently he did layouts for the final issue--which I need to track down).  A John Byrne version would be great!  Or Perez or Alan Davis or...quite a few other masters!  Chaykin (of the 70's) would have worked for me too!

THE SHADOW has fared somewhat better, often under Chaykin, but we also have the Kaluta version (which was about as perfect as perfect can be).  And Sienkiewicz, Baker, and (one issue?) Marshall Rogers all got their shot.  I even liked Frank Robbins' version (that sort of alternated with Kaluta's at the time).  Dynamite is mostly going the "messy noir" route right now with him, and even that seems not too bad (at least it's a a good try), but I wouldn't mind some "names" on the book.

Referencing another thread, I would LOVE to see Jerry Ordway do a run on Doc...and even the Shadow too!

But I look forward to reading my DOC SAVAGE birthday present.  That one 50-page mini-graphic novel by Doug Moench, John Buscema, and Tony DeZuniga may be the only really good comic book version of Doc I ever get.


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I wonder if a Marvel take on DC's "Batman '66" and "Wonder Woman '77" titles might work; "The Incredible Hulk '78" featuring David Banner's travels across the U.S. and possibly in foreign countries, seeking out the top researchers into gamma radiation and mutation, trying to find a cure for "the raging spirit that dwells within him." As a bonus, he could team up with other Marvel properties as they were portrayed at the time; Steve Rogers Jr. in his scramble van, living the life of a beach bum as he occasionally takes on a government mission as the FLAG-serum empowered Captain America; light-hearted, curly-topped hospital psychologist Stephen Strange in his new role as Earth's Sorcerer Supreme; Earnest and kind-hearted Peter Parker, who gained his powers in his early twenties and is constantly beset by savvy, smart-ass female reporters determined to prove he's really Spider-Man; blind attorney Matt Murdock in his black bodystocking; nerdy doctor Don Blake who is able to summon the spirit of a dead Viking warrior whenever he shouts the word, "Odin!" and so on. 

And we could just invent other versions of how our Marvel favorites would have looked had they appeared on 70's era television. How would TV have treated Tony Stark and Iron Man? (Automan, anyone?) Machine Man? The Eternals? We could negotiate some of those nifty-keen crossovers with Dynamite and other publishers to have David team up with Steve Austin, Jamie Somers, and maybe even fight Bigfoot... He could slip into a parallel reality where he must fight alongside the rebels looking to take down the reptilian aliens who have taken over the Earth in another Kenneth Johnson series, "V!" 

That would be a fun title to conjure with on a monthly basis... 

Could he team up with schoolteacher Ralph Hinkley/Hanley and FBI agent Bill Maxwell? We might have to get an independent comic featuring Cannell's "Greatest American Hero" going first, and then cross over with it, but that could be a good time and a worthwhile effort as well.


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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 24 April 2019 at 3:33am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

How about THE ORVILLE?
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Posted: 24 April 2019 at 4:01am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Stranger Things and Eerie Indiana.
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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 24 April 2019 at 9:31am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Wallace S. - I think that's an excellent idea!

Brian H. - I like it. The Hulk's TV show was different enough from the regular comic (or even Rampaging Hulk) that it could be a lot of fun! And I'm still interested in the next team up that never occurred. After Daredevil and Thor, the Green Goliath was supposed to appear with his cousin Jennifer - the Savage She-Hulk!

And the Hulk and the Greatest American Hero? You ain't well - I love the idea! Just the thought of Bill Maxwell dealing with Jack McGee brings a smile to my face - and how to keep Mr. McGee off Ralph's trail as well!

Eric J. - Doc Savage has seen a lot of action, but I wouldn't mind seeing him in a good comic treatment. But quite frankly, I'd rather see him in a good TV or movie treatment. I think he got one movie, and I wasn't impressed.
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Posted: 24 April 2019 at 10:17am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I'd like to read a comic featuring characters from the "Sucker of Souls" episode
of LOVE, DEATH & ROBOTS.

SPOILER ALERT

It would probably need to take place before that particular outing though.
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Posted: 24 April 2019 at 5:41pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

A two-issue mini-series for "The Orville" titled "The Orville: New Beginnings" is solicited in the current Previews catalog. Published by Dark Horse. Written by David A. Goodman(Executive Producer on the show) and art by David Cabeza and Michael Atiyeh.
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Andrew Saxon
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Posted: 24 April 2019 at 6:00pm | IP Logged | 14 post reply

The recent large format book that presented Jack Kirby's take on The Prisoner has left me hungry for a comic based on Patrick McGoohan's cult television series. Now, you might say, DC and Titan have both published Prisoner mini-series, but both were sequels* with different Number 6's to the one we saw on the telly box. I would love to see a comic set within the timeline of the show and with the 'real' Number 6 as played by McGoohan.

*Sequels to The Prisoner really don't work as, love it or loathe it, the ending of the television series doesn't allow for them... I won't say more as I would not wish to spoil that ending for anyone who has not seen it.


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Posted: 24 April 2019 at 9:02pm | IP Logged | 15 post reply

I'll second Eric Jansen on Doc Savage....if the character is handled properly. 

None of that weird crap like when the Shadow was a costumed superhero under MLJ or had a robot body under DC, for example. I want a straight up, recognizable Doc, 5 assistants, and Pat. And any writer who even thinks about so much as hinting to a romantic relationship between Doc and Pat can go suck eggs.

(I need to find a better copy of Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life. I own the paperback published by Playboy in the early 1980's. I know an updated, revised version was released in 2013.)
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Posted: 24 April 2019 at 9:02pm | IP Logged | 16 post reply

Deleted because I realised there are comics for the property I suggested...

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Eric Jansen
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It's strange that there are really so few high quality adaptations of books and movies.  Usually, they're assigned to people with either no names or little talent.  The days of somebody like Roy Thomas and John Buscema (and sometimes Neal Adams) adapting CONAN THE BARBARIAN for hundreds of issues or MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL with multiple adaptations of movies (the great Gene Colan did the METEOR adaptation, for goodness sake!) are long behind us.  (Besides the old CLASSICS ILLUSTRATED, First Comics did their own very nice series for a while.  A while ago.)

But if they ever come back, I would love some high quality adaptations of the SHERLOCK HOLMES and PHILIP MARLOWE short stories and books!

And how come there's not ONE really solid ROBIN HOOD or KING ARTHUR straight adaptation to point to?

I think people like Neal Adams, Gene Colan, maybe Mark Schultz and a few others may have missed some good (self) publishing opportunities.
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Posted: 25 April 2019 at 1:36am | IP Logged | 18 post reply

How about the Mack Bolan: The Executioner book series?






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Eric Sofer
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Eric J. - perhaps one might consider "Camelot 3000" as a decent King Arthur adaptation? I enjoyed it.

And the Shining Knight, a DC character, lived in the era of King Arthur, as did the Demon. Still, I can't recall any of those stories particularly treating Arthur and the Knights too terribly well.

Peter M. - I'm playing fast and loose (that's how I roll... fast and loose, baby!) So if you had some property and it hasn't been done to death, suggest it! I created this for chat and discussion, not restriction.

However, Star Trek and Star Wars and Tarzan have indeed had a lot of representation in comics, is all I'm sayin'.
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This is a great question, Eric.

Given that it might never return in moving-picture form, I'd like to see a return of Blake's 7 in comic form.

I'd love to see something inspired by the massive high-fantasy novels of Steven Erikson and Ian Esslemont, the Malazan Book of the Fallen and related series. A gigantic cast of visually distinctive characters; epic storylines rife with magic and large-scale warfare and dragons and flying cities and undead cavemen...the right creators would have the ingredients for some really amazing comics. 

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Brian Hague: I wonder if a Marvel take on DC's "Batman '66" and "Wonder Woman '77" titles might work...

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Brian, I would LOVE that book!


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There is a truly bizarre Taiwanese movie called Inframan that I would love to see become a comic.
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perhaps one might consider "Camelot 3000" as a decent King Arthur adaptation?
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Hey Eric S - Yeah, CAMELOT 3000 was great, but that's why I specifically said "straight adaptation."  That was definitely a sequel!

If they even want to tackle an old classic, everybody wants to do an ALTERNATIVE version--a sequel or a "What If" or maybe a side story--like SHINING KNIGHT or THE DEMON.

P. Craig Russell has done a great job adapting things like JUNGLE BOOK, RING OF THE NIBELUNG, ELRIC, operas, and a bunch of Neil Gaiman works.  I'd love to see his take on the core KING ARTHUR story.
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