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Jason K Fulton
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Per @RackSpinner, a really fun Twitter feed!
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232 was a fantastic mini-rollercoaster ride. A testament to how much quality storytelling you can cram into a single issue.
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Interesting that title on Star Wars #49.
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At least by 1983 (when I started collecting), July cover dated comics reached specialty stores in March, and newsstands a month later. I do wonder when specialty shops started receiving comics a month earlier, though?
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And I loved it! I had subscribed to the FF shorty before, but was very disappointed in the Moench/Siekievitcz run.

I didn't get that issues of Defenders (until years later), but I got the ones after. The Hell on Earth arc was great. The only other issue pictured above that I didn't buy was the Team-Up, which I've never read.

Loved the PPTSSS issue also. Stern!! And it showed how tough Spidey is--he took down  Jack-o-lantern pretty easily.
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Steven, that issue of MTU was the only one of the comics shown above that I did read that month. I felt enormously glad to pick up FF #232 a few months later. That, and Amazing Heroes #1, which featured a Byrne homage cover to FF #1 and an article on his then-upcoming FF, were two of the earliest back issue purchases I ever made. Brings back some very happy memories of "the hunt," back when everything I ever wanted and never had suddenly seemed within reach. Quite the electric feeling.

At this point, there are probably less than half a dozen issues that I still want to own, but I'm apparently doing just fine without them, so I'm making no real effort to track them down. Plus, I need to sell off what I have, so there's no real percentage in spending money for items that will soon lack a larger context. 

Ah, but back then, it was all there in front of me... :-)

BTW, that MTU is a fun Herb Trimpe illustrated tale in which Spidey and She-Hulk take on... The Man-Killer, an arch-feminist whose progressive agenda included slaying men she felt had wronged women. I almost have to wonder if some folks got scared by that comic at some point... :-)

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Sometime in the 12 months after this issue came out I started to buy American issues in earnest as they became more widely available in the UK.
Prior to this I had only been getting the UK reprints.
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Bought the FF and the PPTSSM issues off the shelf that month. 
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The summer of '81 was pop-culture heaven for me:

JB was in the earliest days of his run on FF.
The Greatest American Hero had recently debuted on TV.
Superman II was in the theaters.
And The Who's You Better You Bet was in heavy rotation on the radio.

What a year to be twelve-years-old!
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This is just about when I stopped reading comicbooks.

I would've stopped completely but for JB's FF!
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Staggering to realize I have more than lived my life over since this!
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I bought all of those apart from the Star Wars one, from
a newsagent`s shop that was by where i caught the bus
home after seeing the girlfriend i started courting
earlier that month...she became and still is my wife, so
it was a good month/year for me!
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38 years ago ... SHUT UP! - i remember buying it and going home and reading it in the kitchen like it was yesterday !!!



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Wow, I remember that day. Had to get to the store right away after school to make sure I got a copy of FF, Iron Man and Peter Parker.
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I was there for that! If I worked at Marvel I would be reaching out to JB now to see if something could be worked out for the Fantastic Fortieth anniversary of this issue.
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I bought FF 232 off the spinner rack based on JB - I loved the last X-MEN issues, and had read previous FF sporadically.  

Reading this was a thunderbolt - it redefined how I saw the FF and it became the best monthly read by far.

Itís such a great kick-off to an amazing run.  And that cover is kick ass!



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I bought FF 232 at the Fairway Drug Store in Dresher, PA (along with Iron Man 148). I had taken almost a year off of the FF because I did not care for the creative team/direction. I was so excited about Mr. Byrne's arrival I actually bought 231 in anticipation of his first issue. After reading 231, I regretted spending my 50 cents. We now know what was to come...

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Itís fun to see how many of you have specific sense-memories connected with this issue. I have them for so many comics I bought as a kid. That Australian reprint that introduced me to Batman and Superboy, bought in a fish market in West Bromwich, England. My first real BATMAN in the magazine department of Eatonís department store on Jasper Avenue in Edmonton, Canada. My first FF from Mikeís newsstand, also on Jasper, tho about four years later. My first (SHOWCASE) GREEN LANTERN, from a United Cigar Store, also in Edmonton. My first (BRAVE & BOLD) HAWKMAN from the grocery floor of Woodwardís department store, ditto.

Remembering reading FF13 lying on the living room rug, eating KFC with the other hand. Even remembering NOT buying the Kuurgo issue of FF (7) because I didnít like Sueís face on the cover (also at Mikeís).

So many more!

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I remember reading #232 in the backyard of my house as a child while sitting in a lawn chair. Things from that issue, like how Susan used her powers in new, inventive ways stuck out to me. That, and wondering who the heck this "Bjorn Heyn" guy that was now inking JB! 
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He wasnít a huge success. I donít think he got any further work in comics.
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Notwithstanding the inking on this book :), the thing I remember is NOT where I bought it - but I was getting my books pulled at a friendly local comic book shop, so it wasn't a decision I made upon seeing it. John Byrne + Fantastic Four = BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT!!! I recalled the FF cameo in X-Men #136 (sic?) and loved it. A whole FF character sequence in one panel!

No, my memory is that Sue was melting on the cover and the splash page - and then was "reconstructed" in the book with a brand new hair style. I didn't like it, but I loved that she was recreated, regards to her look. Well, that and that Ben Grimm is a true hero and always will be. It seemed that in the 60s, Stan's favorite character; I concluded, from this book, that Mr. Byrne's favorite character was the Thing.
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About Susan's new hairdo... I had read several of the reprints of "The Fantastic Four" in "Marvel's Greatest Comics," and the Fireside Books trade paperbacks ("Origins of Marvel Comics," etc.), so I knew that for the first several years of the FF, Susan regularly changed her hairstyle. When I read #232, I didn't know how permanent her new hairstyle would be, but I was fine with the change.

Of course, like Jack Kirby, JB would continue to give her some new hairstyles on occasion. And like Kirby, after JB left the title, it seemed most everyone else that took over the title was afraid to mess with her hairstyle.

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I had subscribed to the FF shorty before, but was very disappointed in the Moench/Siekievitcz run.

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They were the wrong people to be "doing" the FF. Read MOON KNIGHT and it's clear what sort of stories they were better suited for. 

Who was writing THE DEFENDERS that year? J. M. DeMatteis? 
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I think I've enjoyed every other comic I've read written by Doug Moench. Sienkiewicz is a okay in small doses. Sometimes he's too crazy, but he brought new life to New Mutants.
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When Bill Sienkiewicz was working on "The Fantastic Four," and his earlier run on "Moon Knight," he was still in his "Neal Adams" phase. He got more experimental towards the latter half of "Moon Knight," and, of course, "The New Mutants."

Doug Moench did do some great work on "Master of Kung-Fu" and "Moon Knight," but I agree he wasn't at home on "Fantastic Four."





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