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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 April 2019 at 12:42am | IP Logged | 1
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Absolutely nothing will happen to Trump as long as he is in office. Maybe not even after.
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Steven Brake Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 April 2019 at 4:56am | IP Logged | 2
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JB wrote:
Brace for another six years, with him even more emboldened by this "victory". ---------------------------------------------------------
From over the pond, I can't understand why no-one seems able to pose a credible threat, or alternative, to Trump?
Although given that here in the UK we have the least capable government and most ineffectual opposition ever, perhaps I can...
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Doug Centers Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 February 2014 Location: United States Posts: 5476
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Posted: 20 April 2019 at 5:20am | IP Logged | 3
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Trump campaigns on fear, bullying and applause points. I hate to say it, but the only way you're going to beat him is to play his game back at him.
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Eric Ladd Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 August 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 4506
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Posted: 20 April 2019 at 9:31am | IP Logged | 4
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A good portion of the constituency is too damned stupid to respond to anything other than fear, bullying and applause points much to the chagrin of anyone else. I can hope that this president isn't re-elected, but when people prefer immoral, hostile and dishonest representation without understanding where that eventually leads it is almost impossible to return to sound political discourse.
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 April 2004 Posts: 4548
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Posted: 21 April 2019 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | 5
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Steven Brake wrote:
From over the pond, I can't understand why no-one seems able to pose a credible threat, or alternative, to Trump? |
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It is far too early to accurately discern whether anyone will be able to pose a credible threat to Trump's re-election.
If Trump does win re-election, it will not be for lack of a strong alternative. It will be because those opposed to him fail to coalesce around the Democratic nominee and waste their votes on vanity candidates, or fail to vote at all. Trump enjoys (at best) the support of about 40% of the American people, and that is unlikely to change. The only reason he will be re-elected is if enough of the other 60% vote stupidly or not at all (which certainly is possible, but not a given).
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Michael Bunge Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2018 Location: United States Posts: 12
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Posted: 22 April 2019 at 2:45pm | IP Logged | 6
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No offense, but it's pretty funny to read anyone criticizing Trump supporters after the last two years of people screaming about collusion and Trump being a Russian agent and members of his family getting arrested and it all turned out to be nonsense.
There's never been any evidence the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to affect the 2016 election. There's never even been any evidence that anything Russia did or anything Russia is accused of doing actually affected the 2016 election. Yet for two years, people have been promoting a kooky conspiracy theory to undermine the legitimacy of a democratic election and millions and millions of people believed them.
Now, COLLUSION!!! is getting flushed down the memory hole and replaced, without missing a beat, by OBSTRUCTION!!! And it's supposed to be the Trump supporters' mental and moral fitness at issue?
Mike
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 16430
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Posted: 22 April 2019 at 2:49pm | IP Logged | 7
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 31 January 2014 Location: United States Posts: 4789
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Posted: 22 April 2019 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | 8
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Michael B. - you seem to be concluding a lot from a report that has a lot of information blocked by Donald Trump's appointee to Attorney General. I somehow suspect that the parts redacted are not chat about playing pinochle and eating corned beef sandwiches.
Information from the Mueller report - especially where it indicates that they want to say there was no criminal action or collusion, but cannot do so - isn't all out yet. Once the unredacted report is released, or when Mr. Mueller starts testifying to Congress, I think we'll all be in better position to make reasonable conclusions.
Right now, it seems that there is enough evidence for either side to claim some type of victory... but I'm waiting for the facts.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 20 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 14812
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Posted: 22 April 2019 at 4:41pm | IP Logged | 9
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Now, COLLUSION!!! is getting flushed down the memory hole and replaced, without missing a beat, by OBSTRUCTION!!! |
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Replaced? Obstruction was always an issue. Recall that the Special Counsel was appointed in response to the firing of James Comey. Recall the early punditry with regard to Flynn and Comey that the coverup might have been worse than the crime. That the entirety of the investigation was about collusion between Trump and Russia is a strawman put forth by Trump supporters.
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The primary goal of the Special Counsel was to investigate Russian Interference in the 2016 Election, which included any possible links between Russia and the Trump campaign within its scope. The Mueller Report confirms that there was interference.
For the sake of argument, let's concede that there was no coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia. Trump continually tried to shut down an investigation into election interference from a foreign power because it was politically inconvenient from him. He dismisses intelligence stating that there was election interference from a foreign power because it was politically inconvenient from him. Shouldn't he, as President, be working toward stopping election interference from a foreign power?
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4721
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Posted: 08 May 2019 at 1:21pm | IP Logged | 10
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An innocent man wouldn't care if Congress sees the Mueller Report.
-C!
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Richard Stevens Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 04 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1929
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Posted: 08 May 2019 at 1:43pm | IP Logged | 11
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Succinct and true.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4530
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Posted: 09 May 2019 at 10:57am | IP Logged | 12
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"it all turned out to be nonsense"
Taken from the Goebbels instruction book of repeating a simple and utter lie as often as possible. :^(
Russian oligarchs at the inauguration... yet no wondering where he got the money he bragged about having while running after losing a billion in the casino business (genius?) and not having his father the bail him out for the umpteenth time? He has to stress his great family genetics as the logic behind his ans his kids' supposedly yuge successes because there is nothing else he can realistically point to.. really never achieved a thing other than in the b.s./so-called marketing arena (aka conning people).
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 09 May 2019 at 11:01am
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