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Richard Palmgren
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Recently in the wonderful world of current Marvel, Cyclops was shot in the right eye by an opponent and lost his eye.  My question for debate is:  could this have even happened?  Wouldn't Scott's optic blast, constantly projecting out of his eye, prevent the bullet from even getting close to what passes for his eye?
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Could this have even happened? Possibly. E.g, what if Scott was blinking the instant the bullet pierced his visor and struck his eye.

Should this have even happened? No. I can't imagine the character will ever be the same if he loses an eye.

What next? Scott becomes the new Nick Fury?



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Jonathan A. Dowdell
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Maybe someone thought it would be funny for Cyclops to have one eye
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Beat me to it, Jonathan!
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Eric Ladd
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And wouldn't it be cool if Nightcrawler walked during the day and crawled at night? /eyeroll

Every time I consider picking up a new comic I read something like Cyclops loosing an eye and head right back to the dollar bins for books created more than 35 years ago.
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Could this have even happened? Possibly. E.g, what if Scott was blinking the instant the bullet pierced his visor and struck his eye
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But even if it destroyed his eyelid, don't we assume his power is ALWAYS exiting his eyeball?  And it's just the "psionic frequency" of his skin that bounces or reabsorbs the optic blasts?  

Trust me, I'm not trying to justify a crazy event in the comics, I'm more trying to establish with true fans of the "real version" of the character how the power works 
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And that's why I don't buy new comics. I would never have thought that no one knows how to handle Cyclops, of all characters*, but it seems to be the case.

*Captain America might be even easier to handle. It's not as if he's actually undercover for Hydra or anything... :(

I'm minded to agree with Richard's theory - bullets don't travel at light speed, so Scott's eyebeams SHOULD stop the bullet. The corollary is that IF Scott were blinking, the bullet would penetrate his eyelid, and even with the eyebeam, the bullet would still have momentum, so it might impact his eye...

Oh my god, someone hit me with the tranquilizer gun, please. Or get me a copy of the X-Men Masterpiece and let me purge that thought!
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Don't play with bullets, Scott, or you'll be likely to have an eye out...

I think it's at least possible: he blinks, the bullet impacts his eyelid, penetrates the through the eyelid, but at least some of the bullet is sheathed in the beam-absorbing eyelid as it smashes into his eyeball.

Or the bullet crashes into his visor, is vapourised itself by the constant stream of optic blast, but shards of ruby quartz take out the eye.

Possible... But why go there?
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Wouldn’t worry too much. I expect a blood transfusion from Wolverine will grow his eye back.

Or something.
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In Age of Apocalypse, Cyclops also lost an eye. Marvel really does seem to be out of any original ideas, good or bad, these days.
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Soon, Scott's eye will be found and given to... Odin.

Odinclops cometh!!
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Is Odin alive this week?
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Eric Jansen
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Wait, isn't Cyclops dead?

And if he isn't, this reminds me of a line from a Woody Allen movie: "They shot him in the eyes."  "Oh my God, you mean he's blind?!"  "Dead."  "Oh yeah, because the bullets--they go through."  (Or something like that!)
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Paging Mr Fix-it!
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I think it's plausible. But it's questionable whether it's a good idea that should have happened. 

In the scene, he isn't firing an optic blast, so the bullet would not have encountered any resistance prior to hitting the visor. We can see that the visor was broken, so my "No-Prize" explanation for it is that the bullet shattered the ruby quartz lens of his visor, and the ruby quartz shrapnel was what actually caused him to lose his eye.

If anything, his optic blasts probably saved his life, because it was a straight shot, at fairly close range. His power probably slowed the velocity of the bullet down enough that it didn't go through his head and so only his eye was damaged.

That said, I'm torn on whether this was a good idea. I'm inclined to give Matt Rosenberg the benefit of the doubt and give him a chance to see all this through. But i have reservations over whether this was a good idea.
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So Nightcrawler was really a demon and Cyclops has really got just one eye...

Where do they get all these ideas?
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Wait until you find out that Ororo was the human manifestation of the Force of Nature, and Sean Cassidy is actually a female faerie.* And Marvel Girl actually mutated from a light black pair of denim pants, and Logan was a wolverine mutated into human form. Oh... wait...

*I'll bet Claremont would have loved it.
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Mr. Byrne, it is really being part of this forum that has made me realize the way many current comic creators think. Why wouldn't a character named Cyclops have one eye? Stan and Jack obviously made a mistake that has now been rectified. 

Two other things...
1) The next creator will just give him his eye back and this will be forgotten. 
2) Why does it matter whether Scott Summers has one eye? I'm not sure this will ever really have an impact on the character or the story line.


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Jonathan D., I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but the answer to your question is: Cyclops was named as he was because it was descriptive of his super hero identity. It was for the readers as much as anything... those initial Marvel heroes were all pretty much named descriptively of their appearance or powers. The exceptions that I see were Thor, Mr. Fantastic, Marvel Girl, and maybe the Thing.

As opposed to the appearance of Deathkidney or SlashButt. ;)
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Yeah, you'd never guess which character was Thor from a line-up from just from his appearance...
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Peter M. - I'd expect Thor to be a guy with a sprained arm and a lisp. :)

In 1962, who knew who Thor was? Yes, by process of elimination from the Avengers, you'd get him. But the average comic reader might not. You make a good point; I'm just not sure it was quite so obvious. YMMV, obviously.
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Granted, Greek mythology might be a little more popular than Norse mythology, but both “Cyclops” and “Thor” require a certain level of cultural literacy. Maybe people might be expecting a bearded redhead, but Thor is the guy with the hammer. 
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I think the question is best avoided because Cyclops' powers are pure fantasy, even more so than most super-powers.
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To my mind, losing an eye would throw Cyclops' powers off. He'd have to relearn how to use it and compensate for the loss. 
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Mike N. - could be worse. As Cyclops gets older*, he might need bifocals... so when he uses his blasts, he'd cut his toenails automatically too.

*No, he shouldn't get older. Then again, super heroes who need glasses puzzles me as well. In a Superman sequence, when he lost his powers, he took off his glasses and everything was blurry. Why? Clark Kent has 20/20 vision... why would that change if he lost his powers?
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