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James Johnson
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Posted: 12 March 2019 at 2:33pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Sorry if this topic is already out here. If so, please move it to the appropriate thread.

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Iím saddened to see the end of Fox.
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I recently realized that now Disney will have Planet of the Apes along with everything else.
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Does this mean that Disney controls Fox News? Or is that a different company?
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Different entity.  Faux News, sports and the broadcast network were spun off and are now simply called Fox.
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Posted: 12 March 2019 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

From the article: analysts expect the takeover to result in at least 5000 layoffs. The White House says 'this could be a great thing for jobs.'

Not quite sure I follow that logic.


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Posted: 13 March 2019 at 8:57pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

The real question is:  Will Disney now release the original cuts of Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi?
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 Matt Reed wrote:
...Different entity.  Faux News, sports and the broadcast network were spun off and are now simply called Fox..

Yep. As I understand it, for legal reasons Disney can't own two major networks, so that is partly why those companies aren't included.

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 Steve De Young wrote:
...Will Disney now release the original cuts of Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi...

Wasn't "STAR WARS" (A New Hope) the only film of the original trilogy that Fox had control over distribution rights?


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This is a picture that has been on the walls to each office I've worked in for the last fifteen years - it's come to be something a good luck charm.  This is the 20th Century Fox lot around 1935.  I found it in the Fox archives when I worked there and framed it for my office, and my bosses were kind enough to give it to me when I left.



I have such great memories of working at Fox, and this picture reminds me of the time, although when I was there it did not look like this!  The fun of this picture is how wide open the lot is at this time, and how the city was not as populated in that area of town

I am sad that Fox will not be its own studio.  I hope that Disney will retain the name and use it as a division, but this feels like the end of an era.


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Here's a copy of the same photo I grabbed off the internet - my print is from Fox and doesn't have the text in it!

For those of you who are familiar with Los Angeles....

We are looking south, so the east/west road at the bottom of the picture is Santa Monica Blvd.  The east/west road that borders the top of the picture near the sound stages is Pico Blvd.  The road perpendicular to Pico heading south off the lot is Motor Avenue.

Today there is a major road, Olympic Blvd, that cuts through the center of the lot above, but the road didn't quite reach that part of town yet!

Fox sold much of the northern part of the lot in the 1950s, which now has the Century Plaza Hotel, Century City Mall, and office buildings for powerhouse agencies CAA and ICM.



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Wasn't "STAR WARS" (A New Hope) the only film of the original trilogy that Fox had control over distribution rights?
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No. It's a little bit more complicated than that. Fox had (has) theatrical and home distribution rights for the original trilogy (and the prequels). However, those rights for ESB and ROTJ (and the prequels) were set to return to Lucasfilm in May 2020. All distribution rights for the original film were with Fox in perpetuity. Lucasfilm already owned the rights related to 'television and electronic format distribution' for episodes 2 through 6.

All that Lucasfilm did not own will now pass to Disney, of course.


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The road perpendicular to Pico heading south off the lot is Motor Avenue.
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Motor Avenue, from what a studio old-timer once told me, was the thoroughfare established as a direct route between Fox Studios and the old MGM studios (what is now SONY).  Why was it called Motor?  Because it was used primarily in the early days of movies as the passage way for lights, backdrops and other heavy equipment (including cameras!) to be shuttled back and forth via heavy truck and automobile between those two fledgling studios as needed for a particular production.  Apparently there was a lot more cooperation back then!  It's still easily the most efficient route to Century City (Fox) from Culver City (Sony). 
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Peter, thanks for the info. Reading your post, I now recall I read about that deal in the past but I forgot then details of it.

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I wonder if this has any effect on shows like THE ORVILLE.

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We can imagine Disney would be less interested in ďloss leadersĒ.
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At the least, it would mean the Orville switching to ABC and no more 'presented with limited commercials'. As JB says, I doubt Disney is interested in having loss leaders on ABC. However, Disney is very interested in building Disney+, its streaming equivalent to Netflix, and it probably would be happier to have a loss leader there while attracting subscribers to the new venture.
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Thanks for that history, Rick - I use Motor Avenue all the time.  Itís a great route.  Except when it is jammed with traffic, as itís a two lane road with a web of dead-end side streets between Culver City and Pico - if you are in a jam, you are pretty much stuck with no options.

But when you can fly up Motor, itís a dream!  



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Great picture! In the 1990's I lived a few blocks off Pico, a few miles from the Fox lot. I be curious to see what happens to the lot and the Fox Studio gate on Pico. 

I knew that Century City was made up of Fox's original backlot, interesting to see what it looked like in yesteryear. Thanks for sharing!
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At the least, it would mean the Orville switching to ABC and no more 'presented with limited commercials'. .....However, Disney is very interested in building Disney+, its streaming equivalent to Netflix, and it probably would be happier to have a loss leader there while attracting subscribers to the new venture.

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Disney owns a staggering amount of IP.  If they didn't produce a single new show it's still going to dwarf Netflix. Netflix for the most part doesn't own what they stream. Two years after next season of Jessica Jones the Marvel shows all go back to Disney. 

Then factor in after the merger Disney owns 60% of HULU it will be interesting to see how HULU shakes out of this as well does Disney want 2 streaming services or do the sell off their part and take their content w them? 

I cant see Orville landing either on ABC or the Disney new service here this Star Trek-ish show right next to their new Star Wars and Marvel shows. 

Orville is doing CW type numbers slightly above Supernatural this season that and I would imagine the costs are higher than say a drama Fox ( television) also has  WWE this fall (they paid a fortune for) so that's two hours of programming gone. 

 
 


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Well, I don't want 5000 people to lose their jobs. Even if it means we might eventually see a good Fantastic Four movie in a few years.
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Los Angeles Times:  "The Fox lot is one asset Rupert Murdoch wouldnít sell to Disney ó with good reason":


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 John Harrison wrote:
it will be interesting to see how HULU shakes out of this as well does Disney want 2 streaming services or do the sell off their part and take their content w them?

Hulu still plays a big factor in what Disney produced (past tense) and produces (present tense).  It will more than likely be the home of the more adult content Disney produced under the Touchstone banner as well as series from stations it now owns like FX and FXX as well as the series it will own that aired on Netflix.  Disney+ will be home to a treasure trove of family fare the studio has produced for nearly a hundred years, a much broader audience.  They benefit from a 60% stake in Hulu, something negotiated and not just thrown into the mix with 20th Century.  
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Like a lot of fans, I'm very much intrigued to see what Marvel Studios is able to do with the X-Men and Fantastic Four, going forward.  You just know they're not going to be extremely faithful to the original material, but anything has got to be better than the last 19 years of Fox films... right?



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I wonder how big a company can get before it's too much to manage? 

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