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John Byrne
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USATodayDoes he get to walk away from this? I think not.
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Steven Brake
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I can't understand WHY he said it?
I can almost understand it if Neeson had said something to someone and, alerted to it, a journalist pressed him on the point - but why say this when no-one was pressuring him to do so? When it was a private incident, or private consideration that - presumably - nobody else knew anything about?
What did he think the response would be?
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Bill Collins
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I`m sure many of us have had dark thoughts during our
lives, but never acted on them. Why he vocalised those
thoughts to the media, is a mystery, as he must have
realised the result?
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John Byrne
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I’ve said things over the years that have left me surprised by the reactions. Often, of course, people are not reacting to what I said, but some out of context sound byte. But to effectively say “I wanted to murder a random innocent person because of his race”... This slides Neeson into Mel Gibson territory.
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David Allen Perrin
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He's got a movie coming out. Is this some fantastically misguided PR move?
Edited by David Allen Perrin on 05 February 2019 at 1:15pm
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DW Zomberg
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And Mel Gibson eventually made his way back, sadly (with a little love and support from his good buddy Robert Downey Jr).
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Charles Valderrama
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Gibson was caught ranting in a drunken rage racial slurs.... Neeson was commenting on his (raw) feelings toward a violent crime committed on a close friend decades ago. He admitted that his reaction to his friend's rape was just "awful."
I see a difference worth recognizing. Neeson has guts to bring up this discussion.... Gibson was just caught being a jerk.
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John Byrne
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No excusing Gibson, and no excusing Neeson. It’s the deep current of race hatred that makes the comments of both so disturbing. That whole peoples can become targets, in someone’s mind, because of the actions of individuals.
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Steve De Young
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I don't see how, "This one time I seriously contemplated committing a hate crime" can be spun as being brave or honest.
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James Woodcock
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There is so much to this, full of ifs & buts.
I can understand wanting to take revenge BUT on a random stranger? I can understand wanting to take revenge on a male, BUT a black male?
Black. Male. Stranger. & he acted on those thoughts.
No, that’s not right, that’s not good & this cannot be defended.
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Stephen Churay
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This is an apology piece. If you read the
transcript of the original interview and
what was said, in context, you understand
this is a bit of click bait.
Neeson himself said it was unacceptable.
It was also 40 years ago.
I have dealt with a raped family member. I
have seen my loved one, knowing that at
gun point, someone sexual foced themsevles
on her and beat her. When he was finished,
left her in a field to scrape her boken
self off the ground to find help. I know
that anger. In that blind rage, you want
someone to die. You want it to be the
person who did this, but in that moment,
anyone who fits the description will do.
For me, I went to batting cages for about
two weeks. I'd hit baseballs until
exhaustion. When the baseballs became
baseballs and not human heads, I stopped.
It's terrible to feel this. It's not sane.
But I can not condemn a man for his grief.
In both Neeson's case and mine, no one was
hurt. No one wants to come near you when
you look and are acting like a crazed
lunatic. Thankfully. Eventually you come
to peace with what has happened.
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Greg Kirkman
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This puts "I will find you and I will kill you" into a very different context, now, doesn't it? Yikes.
We all have our dark sides. This was decades ago, although that doesn't excuse it. Perhaps he just wanted to make the point that we're all human, and are all capable of repulsive thoughts--and even actions--under the right circumstances. I'd like to believe that people can change, but you never do know.
However, in today's climate, a public admission like this seems like PR/career suicide. Mel Gibson immediately came to mind when I saw this story, especially since anti-Semitic remarks are a few rungs down the ladder than actively contemplating and trying to provoke cause for a race-motivated murder.
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