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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 07 February 2019 at 8:31am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

What's galling is that you need only look at AF 12 to see that it's impossible. Mac is consumed by the immolation of his power cell; he dies whispering Heather's name. IT'S RIGHT THERE. And yet, readers are supposed to believe that the flash-fried corpse was whisked away to a distant planet where IT JUST SO HAPPENS an alien race rebuilds him as a cyborg and helps him get back to Earth?

I let Heather slide because she really wants to believe the impossible. But the readers shouldn't be so gullible-- or so forgiving as to allow Marvel to use this explanation as the "real" story. It's insulting, especially when JB took pains to show us all the ways it could never have happened that way.
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Did they ever try to explain how Delphine Courtney even KNEW that story, if it was “true”?
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Posted: 07 February 2019 at 2:44pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I've never seen or heard any explanation.

EDIT: Must have been one of the issues I missed! :)

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Did they ever try to explain how Delphine Courtney even KNEW that story, if it was “true”?

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IIRC, they said that Courtney learned it from Mac himself who she was holding prisoner.
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 4:23am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Yup. As he turned up on Earth and was found by Roxxon almost immediately, and Courtney learned it from there.

It all makes sense really ;)
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 4:58am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

That DOES make sense—except for the fatal flaw at the beginning.
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Yeah. There is that flaw.

I'm not a believer in bringing back dead characters, but...if a creator feels they need to be brought back, do it with a bit of logic (or as logical as resurrection can be).
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 7:20am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

There are certainly better ways it might have been done.
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I was 14 when Guardian died in ALPHA FLIGHT #12 and it hit me pretty hard, not because he was a favorite of mine, but because I saw him as the anchor of one of my favorite super-hero teams.

When he was "resurrected" a year or so later, I was still young enough to be "fooled" into believing it - HOWEVER, there was SOMETHING about it that bugged me, that didn't "ring true" - which is probably just what JB intended.

The revelation that it was a Delphine Courtney plot shocked me!  But at least satisfactorily resolved all those little doubts that had been rattling around in the back of my head.

The messy morass that came after (like all things Alpha Flight/post-JB) are best left continuity-non-grata for me.

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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 8:54am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

A likely annoying question for JB: where do your ideas come from? ;-)

My real question is, how far along after killing Mac did you come up with the idea of the fake resurrection? It really was a fantastic plot twist. Was it inspired by anything?
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 9:21am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Resurrection was a cliche at Marvel, and most of them were real. I thought a fake one might make a good twist.
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Delphine Courtney was a great villain and would have been a far better choice of character to resurrect after JB's run. To my knowledge she has never reappeared.

(Begs the question, JB, that prior to the reveal in issue 12 that she is a robot, her thoughts were shared with the reader. This may have just been a ruse, but I wondered if the original intent had been for her to be human?)
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