"Has there ever been a show that.... DOCTOR WHO, perhaps."
|Posted: 24 April 2019 at 8:06pm | IP Logged | 3
Yep, good call.
"I'm always surprised that science fiction and fantasy even gets made these days and delighted when it sticks around along enough to make an impact."
Also agree. It's like when the kids nitpick about an MCU movie or complain that something in one wasn't faithful to the comics. You have NO IDEA what we have been through. "Get off my lawn," indeed!
"I think part of DISCOVERY's problems lie in attempting to court the larger STAR TREK audience. In trying to appease two vastly different kinds of viewership who have very different expectations they ended up making a bit of an unfocused muddle."
Not sure I agree for reasons stated above by me and others:
1) Plenty of die-hard Trekkies LOVE Discovery....(Note: by definition "Trekkie" includes fans who were not obsessive AND didn't mind being called Trekkies and for that matter who didn't mind obsessive Trekkies in the first place...and after many years, most of the TV critics who drew a distinction between "Trekkies" and "Trekkers" have been let go in the media apocalypse...and Millennial journalists don't do any research... so "Trekkie" is making a comeback at last...). We thought the reboot movies were too dark--and yet Discovery is darker but still somehow manages to be faithful to the dream. I am not sure we have been "appeased."
2) On the flip side, plenty of Trek fans have legit issues with the format, storytelling, editing, aesthetic, continuity, etc. These are people who might also like the Orville, which has done a great job of updating an old formula. If you had asked me ten years ago would I rather watch a random episode from the first season of B5 or one from the first season of TNG, I would have picked TNG. But ask me today and I will tell you B5 because while some of those B5 episodes are terrible, they aren't unwatchable--and the first season of TNG (with some exceptions) is largely unwatchable. I don't think that Discovery attempted to appease anyone who was pining to return to Farpoint, either.
3) Did Discovery try to appease an audience new to Star Trek? Not behind a paywall, it didn't.
4) The other audience Discovery didn't attempt to appease was the group of folks who wasted calories complaining about Captain Marvel and Brie Larson. Actually, the same way Trump helped local sheriffs, town clerks and mayors self-identify themselves out of their jobs, Discovery helped bigots and conspiracy mongers self-report their own bigotry and insecurity to the rest of the world.
In summary, is Discovery a mess? Yes. But it is a hot mess!
Edited by Victor Perez on 24 April 2019 at 8:11pm