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Christopher Cohen
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Posted: 15 January 2019 at 2:06am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I've searched this forum high and low to determine if the following question hadbeen previously raised here, but didn't find anything obvious, so heregoes (and my apologies in advance, Mr. Byrne, if you did answer this prior):
When promoting your new IDW issues and intention to conclude the series, you mentioned you had to make a change from youroriginal plans due to a then plot occurring in the revived Doctor Who seriesthat had a similar conceit and your wish to not rehash it.

Can you share with members here (okay me)what particular Doctor Who story arc you were referring to at the time?
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I honestly have no memory of this!
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Christopher Cohen
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I obviously left it too late to ask.  Thank you anyway John.
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Christopher, is it possible you're misremembering what JB said about Danger Unlimited, and how it was influenced by The Groundstar Conspiracy (or elements of it)?
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For what it's worth, I vaguely recall this.
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Christopher Cohen
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No, it was specifically about John's planned conclusion, etc. for Next Men and around the time of release.

Richard is similarly having a vague recollection also.  Darn ageing! 
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Bow down to my Google-Fu.

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40033 &PN=0&TPN=1

 JB wrote:
As sometimes happens when a story idea percolates for a long time -- too long? -- my plans for NEXT MEN: AFTERMATH have hit a speedbump. Namely, the recent DOCTOR WHO "finale" played most, if not all, the cards I was planning for my series.

This presents a major problem for me, as a writer. I could simply go ahead with what I'd planned, and assume most people would remember this was stuff that had been floating around in my head since Matt Smith was, like, 10 years old . . .   But, of course, on the internet the single biggest mistake you can make is assuming anyone you deal with is going to be intelligent and reasonable.

So what's my option? I want to tell the story, but it seems I cannot tell it in quite the same way I originally planned. So, after much rumination, I have decided to do what I did with the last issues of JBNM. There I scooped out the sidebars that became AFTERMATH (and if I hadn't, I'd have done all the stuff I wanted to do by now, dagnabbit!) and presented a lean and mean version of my originally more meandering tale. Same thing now with AFTERMATH. What I thought would run for 10 or 12 issues, I have decided to pare down to 5, cutting some elements, downplaying others, and pushing what was once a subplot more into the fore. There will still be unavoidable comparisons to DOCTOR WHO, but I would ask all of you, when you see them, to remind those making them that I was there first!

That's the bad news. What's the good?

Well, with AFTERMATH being truncated like this, it means I will be getting to the hinted-at superhero book a whole lot sooner. So you'll probably be seeing it in 2012, rather than 2013.

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Christopher Cohen
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@Michael Roberts: Yep, that's it. Fantastic! Thanks so much.

The question now is, which "recent DOCTOR WHO finale" is JB referring to, since episode broadcast timings was particularly different across countries back then.  It's obviously the Matt Smith Doctor, but which season, story arc, etc.?
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Michael Roberts
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In Matt Smith's first season, DOCTOR WHO was delayed in the US by only two weeks, and by 2011, BBC America was airing Doctor Who concurrently with the UK, so I would assume the finale being referred to is "The Wedding of River Song".
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Christopher Cohen
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@Michael: I live in Australia and at the time recall episodes weren't running concurrently because fans on forums were posting episode responses out of sync with where I reside (regional and free-to-air tele).

But thanks.


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Michael Roberts
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Yep. "The Wedding of River Song".

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Christopher Cohen
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Any thoughts how the plot/ structure for "The Wedding of Riversong" might have equivalently played out for JBNM's finale if he had proceeded as originally planned!?
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