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Peter Martin
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Posted: 01 March 2020 at 12:50am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Maybe I'm blinded by seeing the film through eyes that were contemporary (temporally), but I think the production values have aged well. It's the stinky plot and generally bland characters that sink the film for me.

The mood, the production design and, yes, even the special FX are decent to my mind. The Cygnus and its weirdoid crew are fine. The Palomino and its tastes-like-over-diluted-squash crew are the problem. You just don't care much about them because they are, for the most part, cut from cardboard.

Compare and contrast with Star Wars. Disney obviously wanted a cut of that sweet, sweet Star Wars box office. The big difference was in the pace, the tone and the characters. Disney's big difference in tone is absolutely fine. But the slow pace and the weak characters are a mill stone.
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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 01 March 2020 at 9:39am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

The script definitely needed another pass, especially with dialogue & characters.  I like most of the actors enough to find them watchable, but if there are any very good moments, they're sporadic at best.

For me, the most interesting dynamic (and acting) was between Anthony Perkins and Maximilian Schell.  And Yvette Mimieux has a very good scene with them as well (probably my favorite sequence in the film, involving Perkins vs. the robot Maximilian).  Sadly, Mimieux, Ernest Borgnine and Robert Forster aren't given much else to work with.  And Joseph Bottoms maybe has one good line reading in the entire film.

Edited by Shaun Barry on 01 March 2020 at 9:45am
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