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Ed Aycock
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Posted: 14 November 2018 at 9:36am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Funny.  "Entertainment Weekly" made a snide comment when it was in limited release about it playing to empty theaters.  Joke's on them.  I must state that I have never, ever been a fan of Queen but I enjoyed this film.  I know it gets pushback for not being 100% entirely historically accurate - but neither was "Selena," "Funny Girl," "Gypsy" or, of course, that sacred "The Sound of Music."

And hey, that was Tim from "Jurassic Park" as John Deacon! Well,  I'll be!
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Apparently a lot of people like fiction.
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Indeed.  Look at "Amadeus."


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not being 100% entirely historically
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From what I've heard they were closer to 50...

I might get the soundtrack, though.
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Some of the films I listed above were lucky to even get 50.
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Bohemian Rhapsody should have leaned even harder into fiction. If the movie climaxed with Queen performing "I'm In Love With My Car" at Live Aid it would have been an awesome pay-off to the movie's best running joke. 

I found the movie agonizing. 

People nodding their heads appreciatively is a staple of the music biopic, but BR took it to parody levels. Based on what I heard of the troubled production, I found myself wondering if the repetitive head-nodding and endless Live Aid performance were a result of patching holes, although at 2+ hours, it's not like the movie was hurting for content. 

I couldn't help comparing it to this year's Nico 1988, which told a story about its musical legend, instead of sorting bits and pieces into a familiar recipe. Some artists and personalities are so distinct and powerful they can't be done justice with a by-the-numbers biopic. 

Damn, that was Tim from Jurassic Park. 
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You guys missed “Tim” in THE PACIFIC?
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David, I was thinking about Nico 1988 myself today as it was an interesting take on the hoary cliches of the biopic in that it only focused on the last few years of her life.  I really liked that take.  
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Biopics have not served as history in pretty much all their time on the screen. But I have grown weary of the broader and wilder excesses of some directors, as they distort reality to tell their story instead of the story of their “subjects”.
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There was the controversy last year over the biopic over the biopic of William Moulton Marston and the creation of "Wonder Woman" ("Professor Marston and the Wonder Women") that drew a lot of controversy as the writer/director pulled a lot of the story out of her ass.  His estate was not happy and I believe sued.
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Part of the challenge of biopics is that human life is dramatically shapeless-- no second acts as F. Scott Fitzgerald famously observed. I prefer when movies craft their story from a discrete time frame or achievement, such as NICO 88, LINCOLN or TOPSY-TURVY (although I may be stretching the definition of biopic, and what I really like are docudramas).

I'll probably see BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY again. For all its flaws it was better than THE DOORS, which is my benchmark for worst film I can still watch once a year. I can get through the dead patches with a book.  





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THE DOORS got me more interested in the band's music. I've been revisiting my Queen collection since watching BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY.  AMADEUS sparked more interest in classical music. If a movie can get people interested in the artists, even with embellishment, and that causes them to explore (or explore more deeply) the artists' music (and perhaps research their more accurate history), and others in the genre, then I don't see that as an entirely bad thing. 

The structure of BR has Freddie Mercury going thru a kind of Hero's Journey. Sure, they made it appear Live Aid is what got the band back together and that it was their final, triumphant work. But they had reconciled (if that was even a thing) before the show came about and certianly continued working beyond Live Aid (like on the HIGHLANDER soundtrack in '86).  But, so what? They were presenting a story with a beginning, middle, and an end. And trying to elicit some tears and laughter in the process.

This was likely not said buy the EMI record exec:

"...the kind a song teenagers can crank up the volume in their cars and bang their heads to.  Bohemian Rhapsody will never be that song."

But having Mike Myers playing the record exec was pretty funny. 


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I openly caught bits and pieces of The Doors on TV once and my one takeaway was Kilmer as Morrison stomping on a roast chicken.    

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BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY was clearly a pretty superficial look at Queen's career,
and I enjoyed it for what it was.
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Ditto.  I thought it was a fine movie.  Been listening to Queen's catalog pretty much nonstop since I saw it.  Always been a fan.  
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I went in, as a big Queen fan, knowing that things would be messed up chronology wise (you could tell that even from the trailer, when you have a moustached Fred asking Brian about the lyric to We Will Rock You). But it had me buzzed right from the 20th Century Fox fanfare. What a great idea that was!
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I’m still wondering what Sasha Baron Cohen had in mind for the movie that made him leave the project.

I still think he would have been a better Freddie.

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I've been a Queen fan since my childhood and I was pleased to observe enthusiastic reactions to Queen music in the theater.

However the movie is bad.

Apart from the fake story of Queen getting back together for the Live Aid and its historical inacurracies (and chronological issues with songs), I think the movie missed the point about Freddie Mercury's personality and what makes the band interesting.
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Roger Taylor saying they hadn`t played together for 2
years prior to Live Aid, did irritate me, this was July
1985, i saw them in September 1984 on The Works tour!
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Bill Collins you're so lucky!

Queen did play before 250 000 fans in Rio in January 1985, the Works Tour ended in may, two months only before Live Aid!
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"Bill Collins you're so lucky!"

David, i only wish i`d been old enough to have seen them
live pre-1980!
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I was 12 the last time they played in France and I heard they played only after it happened!

Bill, I wish I could have seen any Queen show...
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We will have to console ourselves with the live
dvd`s/blurays mate!
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I’m still wondering what Sasha Baron Cohen had in mind for the movie that made him leave the project.

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A movie about Freddie Mercury, not about Queen.
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In my capacity as a radio and print music journalist I've interviewed hundreds of rock stars. Queen were appearing at Newcastle City Hall in May 1979 and I arranged with  EMI promotions to go along and interview one of them for the local BBC radio station. I was told the lucky participant would be Brian May so I prepared various questions about sixpence pieces, making guitars out of old fireplaces and the like.

When I got there this turned out to be a bum steer and I was actually going to be talking to drummer Roger Taylor. "What sort of sticks do you use, Roger?" didn't quite have the same appeal so I winged it. All four band members were knocking around prior to doing their soundcheck and what was interesting was that Roger, Brian and John Deacon were generally accessible and hanging doing the usual pre-gig mooch. Freddie Mercury, though, was a lot less approachable down to a burly minder who followed his boss two steps behind him wherever he went.

I thought the 'Bohemian Rhapsody' film was OK, even if the chronology was played around with a bit. The actors playing the band members did well.
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