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Robbie Parry
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Released thirty years ago today:





By modern standards, THEY LIVE seems a tad slow to begin with, but I enjoy the film whenever I see it. I like the themes and tropes in it. Roddy Piper's character, John Nada, is a blast to watch. And what about that fight scene?

It's not a perfect film, but it's a lot of fun in many respects. And I can't help but think that a remake/reimagining/reboot/whatever the "R" word is could really reflect Trump's regime well.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum."
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Man I feel old!

It was great fun watching it on the big screen, even with Piper's aspiring acting abilities.

You got the best quote Robbie, that just leaves me with this;

"Life's a bitch, and she's back in heat!"
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I only saw the film for the first time about two years ago, but I immediately liked it. This was basically John Carpenter's condemnation of the Reagan administration, but it also plays very well on its surface level.

And, yeah, that fight!
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Fun movie.
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Love John Carpenter movies. Watched this on vhs from the video shop
when it first came out. Flawed film but massively thought provoking!
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I just picked up the newly  restored Blu-ray, film looks lovely and comes with a whole disc of extras and all kinds of bells and whistles.

I've loved the film since renting it on VHS back when it was originally released.

And that fight between Roddy Piper and Keith David!
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When John Carpenter is good he is very good. This movie was very good. Even some of his lesser efforts are 90% better than most.
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I just didn't like THE FOG. I've tried watching it twice, but it didn't float my boat (and I like horror). Seems almost universally liked, though.
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...that fight between Roddy Piper and Keith David...

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I suggested JRjr check that out, as reference for a particularly brutal fight in IRON MAN.

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Another fan right here.  I happened upon it on cable decades ago not even knowing Carpenter was involved and was immediately taken right in.  Rowdy Roddy's no Brando but as a physical presence I felt he did just fine and the movie delivers nicely on its audacious premise. 
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I just didn't like THE FOG. I've tried watching it twice, but it didn't float my boat (and I like horror). Seems almost universally liked, though.

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I'm in the universally likes category. I watch it at least one a year.
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I like the idea and attitude of the film more than its execution.

For me, Carpenter was on a roll up to and including Big Trouble In Little China. I don't really like anything he made after that, barring They Live, which as I say, I don't wholeheartedly like.

Halloween, The Thing and Big Trouble In Little China fully achieve what they are trying to be within their spheres; I think they are basically flawlessly executed in the context of when they were made.
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Carpenter did try and stretch himself, and came up with an interesting misfire with PRINCE OF DARKNESS. That was made out of his dealing with studios and the box office failure of BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA.
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I came to really like Prince of Darkness after feeling lukewarm towards it on the first couple of watches. It's got this very weird unsettling atmosphere, that I dig!
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I like PRINCE OF DARKNESS for the reasons you mention, Richard. Where I feel it misfired was Carpenter seemed to cram so much in to too little space to really give a lot of great ideas the presentation they needed. 

I mean off the top of my head there were ideas about the anti-matter universe, Satan, Anti-God, messages from the future fired to the past via dreams, an end of the world scenario, and a zombie movie (also a bit of borrowing people under siege from ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13).

It is ambitious in its approach.
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PRINCE OF DARKNESS freaked me out pretty good when first viewed about 30 years ago. Maybe I've subconsciously been avoiding it since.
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It still amazes me that both THE THING and BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA were critical and commercial flops. Two of Carpenter’s best, and two of my all-time favorites. 
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It would certainly be interesting to view Carpenter's career trajectory in the alternative universe where those films were hits.

Both of those films must have raked in quite a few bucks by now though, shame they didn't resonate more at the time.
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Slight thread drift, there is a BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA/ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK crossover trade:

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I know there were some BIG TROUBLE sequel comics, a few years back, but I haven't checked 'em out.
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My son, falling victim to my influence of BIG TROUBLE and Snake Plissken, got TPB's of the 2014 sequel comics, and the ESCAPE FROM FLORIDA story line.
Of course I had to give them a read. Both were fun, high marks for the Snake story!
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THEY LIVE is definitely a favorite of mine. Can't really add anything new to what's already been said about it. 

And I can't help but think that a remake/reimagining/reboot/whatever the "R" word is could really reflect Trump's regime well.

If it happened, I think I'd like to see Josh Brolin and Idris Elba take over the Roddy Piper and Keith David roles.
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I really liked They Live. The wrestling moves fight scene is my least favorite part. It goes on too long. But the concept is cool, and there's real drama as to whether or not he'll pull off the goal of exposing the aliens.

I didn't like Big Trouble in Little China at all. Never seen the other movies.
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