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Bill Collins
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Posted: 28 October 2018 at 2:11pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Oh dear, the FX were decent, but the heavy handed
politics are becoming a bit tedious, SF has always had
a message, but mostly done in a subtle way.Also, The
Doctor gets all angry at the shooting of a spider, but
is apparently ok with a load suffocating to death in a
panic room? What of the one in the flat? Is it still
loose?Graham`s pining for his dead wife, hints that he
may ask for a time fix, as discussed in the previous
episode thread.

P.S. Awful title!

P.P.S. No mention of Metebelis 3!

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Posted: 28 October 2018 at 2:38pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

It was fairly entertaining, I felt. I liked that the Doctor considered spiders' lives to be sacrosanct. 

Chris Noth's villain was a bit of a caricature (wonder what inspired him, eh?), but he was a good villain in a pantomime sense. I prefer non-caricature villains, though. But Noth did showcase the character's cowardice and immorality well.

I do like the interaction between the Doctor and her friends. Yes, "friends" seems a better designation than "companions".

The plot and so much else may not stand up to scrutiny, but it was a pleasant way to enjoy 50 minutes, I felt.
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Posted: 28 October 2018 at 3:08pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Not THAT sacrosanct, evidently!
I keep being given the excuse that it`s aiming for a
family audience, that doesn`t mean it has to be dumbed
down!
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Posted: 28 October 2018 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I think part of it, Mr Collins, is the fifty-minute running time. Not excusing it, of course, but imagine what four 25-minute episodes could have done with the concept.
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Posted: 28 October 2018 at 8:44pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Reminded me of Trek's "Devil in the Dark" episode.  As someone who has rescued enough spiders from the house or the office of late (people are noticing), I had a personal appreciation for this one.  Tip:  a glass works better than something opaque to catch them because you can coax them up into it and see they are well away from the lip when you slip a barrier like paper or something to block them from getting out.

Robbie>>But Noth did showcase the character's cowardice and immorality well.<<

He had a "somebody else deals with that" attitude toward his business practices. Very believable. The episode had kind of a Pertwee-Era "mad scientist" episode of people letting things get away from them but without the mad scientist.  Apathy was more than sufficient to let that happen.  Very timely and realistic by comparison, to be honest.

The spider VFX were excellent.  Did they bump up their VFX budget? The FX quality has been exemplary of late.  Even little things like the panic room eye-reader were excellent.
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Posted: 28 October 2018 at 11:11pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

"I think part of it, Mr Collins, is the fifty-minute
running time"

Mr Parry, that`s ten minutes more than most U.S. shows
and 5 minutes more than most previous Nu Who!
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Posted: 29 October 2018 at 5:21am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

The plot kind of petered out (the solution to the spiders was the queen was dying anyway and Chris Noth's character never received any comeuppance for his actions), but I thought that the Doctor's interactions with just about everyone made up for it.

I've seen suggestions that Noth's character was political commentary of some sort, but using a Trump stand-in as a rich, entitled asshole responsible for gentrification and ecological destruction is a genre trope nearing 30 years now:


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Posted: 29 October 2018 at 6:17am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I agree, Michael.

I would like to see Noth's character return because it doesn't feel right that he didn't get any comeuppance, especially after locking his bodyguard in the bathroom.
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 Bill Collins wrote:
Mr Parry, that`s ten minutes more than most U.S. shows and 5 minutes more than most previous Nu Who!

That is true, but I'm thinking in relation to classic DOCTOR WHO.

For instance, "An Unearthly Child" had four episodes, 25 minutes apiece. So that's 100 minutes in total to tell a story.

Imagine what this could have done with 4 25-minute episodes.
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For instance, "An Unearthly Child" had four episodes, 25 minutes apiece. So that's 100 minutes in total to tell a story.

And what a staggering DULL story it was!!!!

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Posted: 29 October 2018 at 11:32am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Maybe "The Daleks" (7 episodes) would be a better example. ;-)
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Posted: 30 October 2018 at 5:07am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

There are some "Doctor Who" stories from the 1963 run that just do not have a strong enough concept to sustain 4 - 6 episodes. 

Season 25's "Silver Nemesis" was too flimsy to cover 1 episode let alone 3.
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Toxic waste dumped by a ruthless business creates giant versions of creepy crawly things: was done better when they called it "The Green Death".
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