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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 22 October 2018 at 6:24pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

There's a documentary out called VHS LIVES! A SCHLOCKUMENTARY:


The producer of the documentary, Tony Newton, was interviewed by sci-fi magazine STARBURST in the latest issue. When asked about the possibility of a VHS resurgence, he had this to say:


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I don't think we are ever going to see big mainstream companies sell new or old VHS releases in our lifetime, people have nothing to play them on, and they would have to pump so much into the VHS and VCR industry, it just wouldn't happen.

Quote taken from the LATEST ISSUE of STARBURST.

So, is he right? 

Vinyl has made a comeback. The format is popular and never totally went away. Plus, you can buy a record player for a reasonable price nowadays.

VHS is different. In 2018, it would be cumbersome. As Newton stated, people have nothing to play them on. Videotapes don't have the longevity of DVD or Blu-ray. And they do take up a lot of space. When CIC Video released STAR TREK: TNG on VHS in the UK, the entire series required 89 tapes. Imagine the shelf space needed for 89 tapes, eh?

Plus, with digital downloads, VHS would be even more unlikely to make a comeback. 

I think there'll always be room for a limited run of something. I believe WWE released an event on VHS in recent years for the nostalgic crowd. For those that still own a video player, a cheap video bought at a car boot sale might hold some appeal. 

As a format, though, I think it'll remain as dead as a dodo.
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Vinyl doesnít decay in the way videotape does. Hundred year old records can still be played. Tapes only a few decades old can be... gone!
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The resurgence in popularity of vinyl is largely driven by the perception that it produces higher sound quality. Vinyl recordings are analog and capture sound as we hear them, while digital formats like CD only capture a sampling of a sound wave, and formats like MP3 compress information on top of that. 

I donít think anyone is going to reasonably argue that VHS produces a better experience.
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I don't see VHS making any more of a comeback than I see a successful music cassette tape comeback. Between the decay of the tape itself, limited picture quality and the need for a long-lived playback mechanism (that won't chew tapes), headcleaning, etc.it's just not a worthwhile endeavor.
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Bill Collins
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As with vinyl(Which you`ll NEVER convince me to return
to!), i remember the drawbacks...poor tracking, pops and
crackes, poor picture and sound quality,cumbersome
storage to name a few! So no!

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It wont come back for me.
Of course I can imagine the next generation of "hipsters" trying to create a niche, exclaiming "there's nothing like that vintage video tape look while watching Terminator".
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Doug, can you imagine, in these days of HD, watching a
video and it being like viewing through gauze, and the
hipster`s trying to convince you that the picture is
"warmer"? ;-)
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No. Even in its heyday VHS was a clumsy format with no great appeal in itself. Also I used to collect old TV shows and films on tape, mostly things that had never been released in any home format, which I'd get by trading with other collectors. I remember the slog of making copies in real time, having to track down things you were after through a network of contacts*, making deals for what you wanted with what you had to offer, the way that some shows/films were simply impossible to find in good quality. (VHS recordings deteriorated in picture quality very badly from one generation to another.) Almost everything I hunted for in those days has since appeared on DVD and sometimes blu-ray, in quality so much better that no one in their right mind would want to go back.

*It took me two years to get a complete run of the Edgar Wallace Mystery series of films. Now available as a box set for £42 from Amazon!
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A lot of indie horror fans collect VHS and new filmmakers are trying to capitalize on it by releasing limited editions of their movies on VHS. It's a niche of a niche of a niche audience but there are some meager attempts at bringing VHS back.

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John, over here we have blurays being released in VHS
style packaging!
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From my classes in archives, quality vhs tapes have a longer lifespan than equivalent dvds.
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The quality of VHS aside, I do miss (and we did a topic on this once) commissioned cover art that made VHS so entertaining back in the day.

And then there was Betamax...
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We had a Betamax! Back in the day when your favorite movie was $89.99!
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"when your favorite movie was $89.99!"

In those days, i won The Empire Strikes Back on VHS,
imagine how happy i was!
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I read years about the business model for video rental stores, specifically how they would pay a LOT for a videotape from the distributor, but would get to keep the film for the lifetime of the tape. So of course they made their money back.

Over time, it changed so that the video stores didn't pay as much for tapes, but simply gave a percentage per rental to the studio/distributor.

We've had debates about libraries vs. selling in the past. I wonder, were any studios/distributors complaining about people renting rather than buying tapes?
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"...and the
hipster`s trying to convince you that the picture is
"warmer"? ;-)"

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Ha!, right Bill. And then they give you that look of disgust when you tell them "I just don't get it".
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Doug, then saying their turntable and amp/pre-amp etc
cost a few grand!
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Getting rid of VHS in favour of DVD was major progress in my book. Better image, less wear and tear and, importantly, it demaned lot less shelf space!
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Of course I can imagine the next generation of "hipsters" trying to create a niche, exclaiming "there's nothing like that vintage video tape look while watching Terminator".

NEVER TOO YOUNG TO DIE, an 80's gem starrring John Stamos, Vanity, and Gene Simmons, went years without being issued (officially, in the U.S.) on DVD. Finally, last year, it came out in a Blu-Ray/DVD combo. The DVD has a "special feature" where one can enjoy the "VHS version", I guess to capture that "real" 4:3 Standard Def way we all watched it back when. 


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Robbie Parry
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There was one advantage to VHS: being able to fast-forward through the studio logo/copyright info/non-skippable ads.

The WWE DVDs irked me. No option to fast-forward through the distributor logo/copyright information/"Don't try this at home..." disclaimer/etc.

And if I have to sit through the Paramount logo again...
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Vinyl also at least claims to have superior sound quality to digital, at least for recordings made before digital production.  I'm somewhat dubious of this, just like I'm dubious of people claiming they can tell the difference between 60 and 100 fps on video games or 2k and 4k television.  But at least that idea is out there.

Nobody thinks VHS offers superior video quality to Blu-Ray or digital.

The equivalent to vinyl in the movie world would be more like certain directors still using film.


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2k or 4k? Do we need to upgrade our eyes to appreciate
4k?

I think for my age my hearing is pretty decent, it was
tested a few years ago and was fine.I like to listen
to music properly, not just as aural wallpaper, and i
listen out for clarity, and all the instruments in the
mix, i like mp3 on my phone for listening in the
garden or on holiday,it sounds ok to me, i can still
hear subtle percussion etc.I also like HD bluray 5.1
mixes, which can really bring out sounds previously
hidden in the standard stereo mix, plus the surround
soundscape can be really immersive, so vinyl and VHS?
No thank`s!
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Any VCR/video cassette resurgence can only end like this:

"Wow, I'm glad I invested in this new VCR, to watch all of my super-rare and/or collectible VHS tapes, filled with priceless sentimental value, and probably bought at a premium back in the day!"

*VCR eats tape*

"Arrrgh!!!  What the $&@# was I thinking?!?!?!?!?!"



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Uh... no
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