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Posted: 12 October 2018 at 9:08am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Poking around on Google Maps, and once again found myself "standing" outside the apartment building where all but one issue of UNCANNY X-MEN was drawn. My first issue of FF was started there, too.

Oh, those lonely years!

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Posted: 12 October 2018 at 9:24am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Looks like a nice place!
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For those not in the know, Calgary received a foot of snow last week. Not a happy city at the moment.
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Could that be the balcony from which a certain page of X-Men art was thrown in angry reaction to the scripting?
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I told someone once that if I could have a second home, it'd be in either Toronto or Calgary (I've never been to Canada - one day! - but I like the look of those cities).
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Mark: Could that be the balcony from which a certain page of X-Men art was thrown in angry reaction to the scripting?

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Literally thrown off the balcony? Ha! I have no memory of that story! 
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Could that be the balcony from which a certain page of X-Men art was thrown in angry reaction to the scripting?

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What now?

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JB: What now?

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Not a very promising reaction, so I will stipulate this could be something my mind made up or conflated, but seeing that picture of a balcony immediately brought a memory to mind that I thought I got from an interview. So here's my unverified recollection: There was a time you had worked out a scene with your co-plotter on X-Men and you had drawn it as conceived, but the first time you saw how the scene would appear in print was when the page of art was returned to you with lettering on it. You instantly saw the new version not only erased the original intent, but created a new moment which you would never have agreed to and you threw the page off the balcony which you happened to be on.

I feel like I'm repeating what I read pretty faithfully, but considering the reaction it's provoked, I'm wishing I had the source of this memory on hand -- whatever that source is!
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First, Marvel’s artwork return was nowhere near that fast. The only way I could have seen a lettered page before I saw the published book would have been if I’d been visiting the Offices in NYC, so no opportunity for balcony hurling.

Second, it would have been crazy to throw something so immediately traceable to me into a street full of traffic. Who knows what kind of accidents that might have caused!

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Posted: 12 October 2018 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Wow! Sorry about that. I hope it seems as innocent as it feels-- I had that story in my head somehow and seeing this thread made the whole thing drop onto my mental desktop like any real memory would.

Erase! Erase!





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As one who has vivid memories of the Blitz — which happened ten years before I was born — I fully understand.
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Posted: 12 October 2018 at 4:39pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I understand if this is not in the memory bank (I can barely remember yesterday), but can you remember which issue was NOT drawn there?

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The first one I did. That was drawn in a motel coincidentally across the street from the SAIT campus (home in my day of the Alberta College of Art).
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What was the allure of that part of Calgary?
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Regarding the balcony story, Roger Stern had come to Calgary with the
make ready of issue 114 and you read the confrontation between
Cyclops and Storm over his reaction to Jean’s “death”. Enraged by
Chris Claremont’s rewriting of the scene you were tempted to throw it
off the balcony. Tempted being the operative word.

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What was the allure of that part of Calgary?

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Central location (more or less).

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Spent a Christmas in Calgary back in '98, as my girlfriend was from there. Nice city, but damn it was cold! 
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"...but damn it was cold!"

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And this from a Norwegian!
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But it's a dry cold!

Oft Told Tale: One morning, after Canada switched to metric, I was riding down in the elevator in that very building, and a couple of Yuppie guys were also in the car. One of them commented that it was 40 below outside. Yeah, said the other, but that's centigrade. So they were both okay, and headed out into... 40 below, which is the same on both scales.

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It’s really cool to see where the X-Men issues were drawn - and I bet that was an awesome balcony view!



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It was, until that brown building went up across the street! Then my view of the Rockies was reduced to only what I could see down the canyon of buildings to the right (straight ahead in this picture). Downtown Calgary, my view to the left, was less inspiring in those days.

Incidentally, just down the street you can see one of the elevated walkways (called Plus 15s) that interconnect much of the downtown. A boon during those cold winters. My Dad, when he was with the City Government, pushed for their installation. Succesfully, obviously!

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Posted: 13 October 2018 at 12:52pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Plus 15s are now at 59 bridges and 16 km (10 miles) of walkway.

I might have liked Calgary more if the network had been in place when I worked downtown those many years ago.
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Posted: 13 October 2018 at 3:18pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

Curious to see but sorry, that building looks like a parkade crossed with a hospital tower to me. It'd keep you from being distracted by anything outside the drawing paper though, I can imagine that much for it. Looks like the place for people who don't want to see a lot of trees maybe? :^|

The Calgary Sun newspaper alone would keep me from living there, from being trapped there during some record flooding that put the Saddledome underwater and I thought Fox News had become two dimensional! And a bloody Page 3 'girl' to boot... there went my pure and sane idealization of Canada. :^)

A grid system of streets, very logical I was told... except for exceptions, things named Trail this and that which zigzag all around with ways of getting on and off known only to locals. Maybe some taxi drivers got together and invented them! Ha. :^)

I would live in Jasper, Alberta though, most beautiful place I have ever seen! I thought I'd wandered into the old book Heidi!
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Posted: 13 October 2018 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

Now, the view of the mountains appears to be completely obscured by the adjacent buildings.

John's old apartment building has the red arrow.

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Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:40pm | IP Logged | 25 post reply

These pictures make our downtown look nicer than it actually is, lol. That part of the city is in a transitional phase where they are trying to build up and revitalize parts of it like the East Village and the riverfront, but it still has a lot of scummy areas and pretty much any block has it's fair share of drug dealers, drunks and other undesirables. It's getting better but it's still got a long way to go to be what they want it to be.


Edited to add... Rebecca is right about the Calgary Sun, it's about one step away from being a tabloid. It's pretty biased, has trashy features like the "Sunshine Girl" and has way more advertising on each page than articles. The Calgary Herald is a much better newspaper.


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