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Posted: 08 October 2018 at 8:41am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

And not in a good way.

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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 08 October 2018 at 9:54am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Not with a president and Congress who pull out of the Paris accords and aren't smart enough to know that Global Warming and Climate Change are the same damned thing. We're screwed.
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Posted: 08 October 2018 at 10:08am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

What doesn't help are here today, gone tomorrow politicians.

Off the top of my head, I can't tell you who our Climate Secretary is. He/she will be replaced next time there's an election. That's a position that certainly could do with a committed person for life.
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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 2:07am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Lifetime appointments are not necessarily a good idea.  For anything.

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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 3:28am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Lifetime appointments are not necessarily a good idea.  For anything.
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Absolutely agree. Poland got in trouble for introducing retirement age for their supreme court judges, though. Critics argued that it was an attempt by the government to replace judges with THEIR people. Which it probably was, but I still think it beats lifetime appointments. 
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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 4:25am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

As it was explained to me, us humans are biological weirdos as our metabolism can tolerate wide fluctuations in temperature. Not so for many animals. A few degrees off in the climate and entire species can go extinct, because they can't handle the heat (or cold).   
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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 6:37am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I'm not concerned. Jesus and his dad have got this covered. The Bible describes the End Time and the coming of a spaghetti-haired prophet who will "...deliver his message to us as if by birdsong" (a reference to Twitter), speaking in Tongues which we will not understand, and ultimately lead us to the Kingdom of Heaven (presumably a new Trump Casino in Las Vegas).
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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 6:55am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

As it was explained to me, us humans are biological weirdos as our metabolism can tolerate wide fluctuations in temperature. Not so for many animals. A few degrees off in the climate and entire species can go extinct, because they can't handle the heat (or cold).   

As far as humans, that's a bit broad. Only about 2% of the Earth's surface accommodates us in our natural state. Adapting the environment to suit our needs its what's gotten us in this trouble!

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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 4:31pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

As Agent Smith said, we're like a virus...
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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 5:22pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply


When I was in high school in the 90s, they hit is over the head with dire predictions about global warming and *none* of them have come true.  That's why these scare reports are meaningless to me.  The person teaching our AP Biology class said that by the year 2010, Crater Lake (in Oregon) would be nothing more than a mudhole, she said the arctic passages would be easy sailing year round, she said snow would be a distant memory in our hemisphere, she said polar bears would die out. 

None of these things have happened.

Furthermore, when the UN comes out with these scare reports, the "solution" is always massive redistribution of wealth for some reason.  I suppose you could say that the UN has always been goal oriented.

Michael Crichton had a book about this whole thing (State of Fear), and even testified to congress about climate models, talking about how Michael Mann's computer model created a hockey stick graph even if fed random data.  There was also climategate where leaked emails proved that climate scientists were cooking the data in order to hide their own inconvenient truths.  (eg. "Hide the decline" in temps). 

We will be fine. 




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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply


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Michael Crichton had a book about this whole thing (State of Fear), and even testified to congress about climate models, talking about how Michael Mann's computer model created a hockey stick graph even if fed random data.

Michael Crichton was an enjoyable sci-go writer and a well-educated guy, but I dont know why hed be considered an authority on climate science. 


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There was also climategate where leaked emails proved that climate scientists were cooking the data in order to hide their own inconvenient truths.  (eg. "Hide the decline" in temps).

This is an incorrect statement. Multiple investigations turned up no wrongdoing. What had happened is a bunch of non-scientists with an agenda took comments out of context. 
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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 6:33pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I think Jozef's reply pretty much nails why JB's thread title is a 100% accurate prediction of the state of affairs. That's why my initial reply in this thread was so flippant.

If we're being serious, the fact of the matter is that there's simply no way we can convince a largely uneducated and/or willfully ignorant, self-centered, global population that we are destroying our own planet. Especially when there are people in positions of authority who reinforce the self-serving message that climate change scientists are wrong, but they, as politicians, are right.

The human race will continue to breed like locusts and abuse our resources until a major correction wipes out or significantly diminishes the number of humans on this planet. Nature, unlike the kind old man in the sky, does not pretend to be particularly forgiving or kind.
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