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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 14 December 2018 at 10:07am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Way back when, there was a time when Superman was IT. The ultimate super powered character, the ultimate super hero, the ultimate standard to live up to.

I don't know that his powers are so hard to show - I think that Green Lantern or Plastic Man would be MUCH harder - but the character is not Mon-El, not "superguy", not "new and improved" - it's Superman.

Superman, Captain America, Spider-Man* are all characters that are pretty easy to understand, but are vital to be portrayed correctly. I think that's a lot tougher than just "man with super powers."

*Okay, the Hulk is a character that's pretty easy to understand also - but not quite as complex as those other three.
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Petter Myhr Ness
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Posted: 14 December 2018 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

"He's a very difficult character; you have to find an emotional flaw or weakness in the character in order to make them vulnerable."

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Sigh.

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Steve De Young
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Posted: 14 December 2018 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Is it difficult to make Thor work? How about Wonder Woman?? How about Flash?? Yet for some reason, Superman is singled out.
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Even with the stellar casting of Christopher Reeve, there have been, what, one and a half good Superman movies out of how many tries?
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Petter Myhr Ness
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Even with the stellar casting of Christopher Reeve, there have been, what, one and a half good Superman movies out of how many tries?
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Most of those made before a time when superhero movies were actually a THING. And I would say that the characterisation of Superman is not the problem with Superman II, III or even IV. 

Then Singer's movie arrives, and the tendency to over-complicate the character begins. As it had in comics. 

If there is a problem, it's that DC have focused so much on his alien origins and made his powers so great over the years, that they removed him from his more down-to-earth beginnings. There have been attempts to fix that, by Denny O'Neill or JB to name two, but unfortunately it didn't stick. 


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Posted: 15 December 2018 at 4:59am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Most of those made before a time when superhero movies were actually a THING
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And how many good Superman movies were made after superhero movies were actually a 'thing'?

Steve raises a fair point. The evidence does point to filmmakers struggling with Superman, for whatever reason.

I'm not convinced it's to do with with the specifics of  the character per se, more to do with the weight of the history and resultant audience expectation, but regardless the evidence does point to an inability on behalf of filmmakers to do the character justice.
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Superman is an authority figure (as are most superheroes in general). The people running Hollywood (and comics) these days are "bad boys" who scoff at authority figures. That's why Wolverine is KEEEEWWWLL. And why they "struggle" with Superman.
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Shaun Barry
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Any comments from the Russo Brothers are moot, anyway... last I checked, they haven't been handed the reigns to any potential SUPERMAN film, so no harm, no foul.  Just their own opinion at this point.



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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 30 January 2019 at 10:19pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Well, WB is pencilling in Matt Reeves' THE BATMAN for June  25, 2021.

Ben Affleck won't be reprising the role after playing the Dark Knight in 3 DC films... he's done and this movie will focus on a younger Bruce Wayne*.

(*Won't be based on Frank Millerís Batman: Year One!)


Also, the Suicide Squad sequel is set for Aug. 6, 2021 with James Gunn writing and directing.

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Brian Hague
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I say we give the Squad a spaceship, have them recruit a miniature Floronic Man, maybe bring in Dex-Starr from the Red Lanterns, and we are off to the races! Maybe have Captain Comet in there somewhere, listening to vinyl albums from 1951, as he dances around and works with the team the way he did the Secret Society back in the day...

As for a new Batman film...  at this point, I could not care less. Maybe they could bring in Kevin Smith to have him wet his pants when a chafing dish catches fire. So kewl.

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Not only that, but THE BATMAN is going to be...

...wait for it...




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The detective story element sounds promising until you hear the director came to us via Felicity and Cloverfield. I have no faith whatsoever in any Bad Robot clown or their ability to tell a story. It'd be nice to be wrong, however, so I'll still wish the film the best, while making no plans to see it myself absent some solid post-release word-of-mouth.

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