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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 1:40am | IP Logged | 1
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Reading the excellent Con report by J.B. and people being surprised that he didn`t charge for his signature, got me wondering...i know that for many actors from yesteryear it puts food on the table, which i appreciate, and would not mind a nominal charge for their signature.But what i don`t like is major stars charging a LOT of money for their autograph, it seems to me, that they are earning a good living and using the fans as a cash cow is a bit distasteful. The same with bands charging hundreds for a `Meet and Greet`I understand if the money goes to charity, and would willingly pay £10, but upwards of £100 some charge is taking the piss.I understand that nobody is holding a gun to the head of anyone.Thoughts?
Edited by Bill Collins on 14 August 2018 at 1:40am
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Andrew Saxon Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 2:44am | IP Logged | 2
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I'm old enough to remember when an autograph was a souvenir of meeting someone you admire rather than a financial investment.The first celebrity I ever encountered was Nick Courtney who played the Brigadier in Doctor Who. I was very young and we bumped into him on a shopping trip. He was very kind enough to sign his autograph for me and it was a completely lovely experience - hopefully for him too, because although my younger self wanted a souvenir of meeting a hero, I hope that he was flattered that I admired him and his work enough to ask.
When I first started going to Science Fiction conventions in the 1970s, the stars never charged for autographs as it was part and parcel of raising money for charity. Then, in the late 1980s, the American style 'for profit' conventions came across the pond and changed all that.
Nowadays getting an autograph is a retail experience. Money, money, money. Someone you admire is sat at a table with a little tin of change and there is the awkwardness when you hand over your cash. I did it once, never again, I might as well have been purchasing a tin of beans (that particular autograph sits unloved in a drawer somewhere). Nowadays when friends tell me they 'met' such and such an actor I take it more that they had a financial transaction with such and such an actor. Sylvester McCoy (the 7th Doctor) is appearing at an event nearby soon and on the flyers are the details of how much he charges for an autograph plus extra for a 'selfie'. Where is the joy in that? No thanks.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 2:51am | IP Logged | 3
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I agree Andrew, i once met Nicko the drummer with Iron Maiden at Birmingham New St railway station, he`d got the train to the show as had i, he was lovely, signing for the few fans who recognised him, i also had my programme signed by Dave and Adrian the guitarists of the band, they were in the crowd watching the support band! It used to be a sign of appreciation for the fans who made you famous/successful, now you`re just seen as another revenue stream.
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Steven Myers Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 5:48am | IP Logged | 4
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Sometime back in the 90s I decided I didn't really need anyone's autograph. What is the point, anyway? I do have some key issues written on by JB, but I don't need everything signed. At cons, I find panel discussions and talking to creators more interesting anyway.
I have no interest in getting celebrity autographs at cons. I don't understand why people wait in line and fork over $60 or more for them, with a few exceptions. A friend paid $100 for Mike Nesmith to sign his Monkeemobile model, because he had the other 3 Monkees sign it in the past. By comparison, he ran into Davy Jones at an antique shop before a concert and he signed it for free.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 5:54am | IP Logged | 5
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I'm a great believer in autographs as a "connection" to someone I admire. It's one of the reasons I am saddened, somewhat, by the common policy in comics of getting EVERYTHING signed. Like, for instance, getting all my drawings in an issue of OHOTMU signed. Where's the "special moment" in that?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 6:21am | IP Logged | 6
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BTW, I have on occasion charged for my autograph. Those were at charity signings, where the money went to a good cause.(Happy to report that many times fans would actually drop more into the collection jars than I was charging!)
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 6:36am | IP Logged | 7
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"BTW, I have on occasion charged for my autograph. Those were at charity signings, where the money went to a good cause"
That is perfectly acceptable. With comics, signing the first 5 free, but anything over 5, charging per issue, to keep queues down and prevent greed(Flogging on Ebay) is a good idea. I agree about the `connection`, and if you did a U.K. con i`d be there in the queue with my forum badge to make that connection! Nowadays a camera photo makes a good memento too, although a lot of celebs charge for photos too.
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 6:37am | IP Logged | 8
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I know at C2E2 there were quite a few creators who'd only sign multiple books if people would donate to CBLDF. They'd have a jar on their table for the donations. In those cases, I'd have no issue in dropping a few dollars into the jar. But if the money was going directly to that person, then no... I wouldn't pay.
Edited by Kevin Brown on 14 August 2018 at 6:38am
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Steve Gumm Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 7:25am | IP Logged | 9
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I switched my mindset at my last con and made sure to buy a couple of prints and pay for a few autographs to show some love to a few of the creators that really meant a lot to me.
Something to remember, some of these guys aren't swimming in cash and charging for autographs produces a bit of a revenue stream that might help them make attending the show worthwhile.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 7:43am | IP Logged | 10
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When I was first attending cons there were several artists from the Golden Age for whom the convention circuit had become their lives. They traveled from con to con, living in hotels, often with wives in tow. I live in fear of becoming one of them.
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Bob Simko Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 9:06am | IP Logged | 11
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It's morphed into an unfortunate business where a lot of autographs are obtained to increase a resale value...I see no problem with the signer getting a fee. I have a small collection of autographs from actors, musicians, athletes and a couple comic creators I personally enjoy, but that's about it. Even when I've had opportunities to get autographs, if I'm not interested or know someone who would cherish it I haven't bothered.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2018 at 9:14am | IP Logged | 12
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A nice thing i take advantage of, is certain musical artists signing new releases if you pre-order via their website rather than via Amazon etc.
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