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Peter Martin
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Posted: 21 February 2020 at 6:24pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

"Isn`t nowhere" Peter, you`ve been watching too much
Star Trek! ;-)
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Apologies for the poor grammar, Bill! Beneath my usual standards.


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Itís pointing out how the character had developed and how that point of development leads to how the character is presented in PICARD and how Picard is not the static character that you suggest. Thatís not special pleading at all.
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The reason I say it is special pleading is that we are given 178 episodes of TNG that inform us about the character of Picard. You then cite joining his senior crew for a game of poker in the final episode as a justification for ignoring the core tenets from the preceding episodes.

I'm not necessarily saying that Picard is static, but take, for example, what we are told in the episode Tapestry. Q lets Picard re-do an encounter from his youth. The encounter was a bar brawl that he regrets, in which he was stabbed through the heart. The event explains why Picard has grown to be circumspect, how he grew to be such a thoughtful and disciplined captain.

But in Star Trek: Picard, we have Picard rashly walking into the no human zone and sparking a violent encounter with a group of Romulans. This seems inconsistent. A game of poker with his senior crew in the final scene of the final episode seems in no way to provide a justification for this.


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But in Star Trek: Picard, we have Picard rashly walking into the no human zone and sparking a violent encounter with a group of Romulans. This seems inconsistent. A game of poker with his senior crew in the final scene of the final episode seems in no way to provide a justification for this.

Luckily, no one is suggesting that.
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You then cite joining his senior crew for a game of poker in the final episode as a justification for ignoring the core tenets from the preceding episodes.

While we're at it, I did not say this either.
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I spotted easter eggs regarding Mr Mott the barber and
Quark!
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You aren't mistaken, he was returned in VOY "Child's Play" but it was later
revealed his parents had genetically altered him to be a weapon against the
Borg and he ended up returning to Voyager afterward.



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Guess I need to watch Child's Play. I have a tendency to skip a lot of Voyagers
episodes the show itself balances nice against DS9 but it's wildly inconsistent.
Icheb to me was Voyagers' Wesley Crusher boy genius type.   

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"Nepenthe" is my favorite episode so far, certainly for the
return of Riker and Troi. But even more than nostalgia,
the moments between the three friends lands perfectly. The
scene where Riker pretty much guesses the details of
Picard's dilema had me laughing from pure joy. It was just
so wonderful and heart wrenching.

You would think the new characters would pale in comparison
with scenes from TOS heavy hitters, but the story with
Agnes is really engaging. I thought Agnes would be the
most boring character on the show, but her conflict is so
compiicated and the actor plays it so well that it was a
real stand out in a strong epsiode.

Hugh's death is such a waste - I wish he stuck around
longer.



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My thoughts exactly, a waste! Loved the Riker,Troi
Picard interaction! My one gripe, yes we know from the
trailers that 7, Riker, Troi etc are in it, but it would
help if there names were not in the opening credits, if
the intention is to surprise us as to their appearance,
which certainly seems to be the case, the way it is
scripted and shot!
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Tim O Neill
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I loved the series, warts and all. I like that they tried something new, and I
REALLY like the ongoing cast.

There is so much to like about the season finale, but the one moment that
echoed STAR TRTEK INTO DARKNESS made me wince. It did lead to a
wonderful scene with Data, so I won't complain. Much. (I'm being careful not
to give details even though we have a spoiler warning - it just posted last night
and I want everyone to get a chance to see it.)

I will likely watch this again all in one shot, but I was just glad to see this. I
believe Chabon is out? That concerns me for the future of the show.

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Spoilers from the last episode are in this post





Really cool to see Riker in action again. Loved Data kinda being back,
too. Even if only for a bit. Picardís resurrection was telegraphed totally
in part one. Especially already knowing thereís gonna be a second
season.
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Jozef Brandt
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I don't see how anyone who calls themselves a Star Trek fan can like the series Picard...YMMV I guess.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 28 March 2020 at 9:01am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I donít see why people canít just let other people like what they like and
stop trying to be a ďbetterĒ Star Trek or Star Wars fan by belittling the
stuff they donít like.

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